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Old 16-06-2021, 01:58 PM
Viswa
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Dreams

Is everything a Dream?
A Dream that happens in a single conscious mind?
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Old 17-06-2021, 08:20 AM
Uday_Advaita Uday_Advaita is offline
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Is everything a Dream?
A Dream that happens in a single conscious mind?

"Consciousness is all there is"

You may as well call it a "Living Dream" within non-dual Consciousness
Namaskar
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Old 17-06-2021, 08:43 AM
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"Consciousness is all there is"

You may as well call it a "Living Dream" within non-dual Consciousness
Namaskar

Namaskar

Well, now we are in an illusion. We can see only the atoms - and not within 'the subtlest of the subtle'. A Dream/Maya, where the atoms are not present actually, but we sense it is bcz of illusion.

How to realize and come out of this MAYA?
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Old 17-06-2021, 09:43 AM
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How to realize and come out of this MAYA?
Well, isn't that the best question!? I sure will be tuning into this!
You/we have come a long way just to know that this is a dream!
There are many paths suited for each person.
Have you practiced one for awhile yet? If not, just keeping the mind focused on the knowledge
you have already that this place is not real helps.
And then, there is a book I just love! Of all the books, makes me laugh I pick this one
to recommend often.
Michael Langford - "The Most Direct Means to Eternal Bliss".
It's not for everyone, hahaha.
Legrand liked it! You'll meet him here. :)
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Old 17-06-2021, 09:58 AM
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How to realize and come out of this MAYA?

How to realize? Choose and engage a path and its tenets and practices.

How to come out of Maya? So long as one is embodied being one does not come out of Maya because the embodiment is part and parcel of Maya. It's like a mundane vs. lucid dream. While the dream is mundane one believes the dream but if one attains lucidity one "knows" it's just a dream. Self-realization is like attaining lucidity within a dream.
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Old 17-06-2021, 12:05 PM
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How to realize and come out of this MAYA?
First experience it as a dream, then you'll see if you want to get out of it, or when.
Meditation does the thing for me.

There is an easy way to explain why you don't see it as a dream. If things don't go your way, it means you're not aligned. Then you can be in a nightmare, or some stuffs you haven't chosen. If I quote the most famous guru of youtube (Sadhguru), he keeps saying that people are just living their own drama. And that's true. It's their own drama and their neighbor's drama also.
If you align, things will go your way, you'll see your neighbor differently, and you'll be in a dream. That's it!

EDIT: Or I should rephrase myself: if you go the way things go and let go of your way, you'll be in the dream!
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Old 17-06-2021, 12:17 PM
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Michael Langford - "The Most Direct Means to Eternal Bliss".
It's not for everyone, hahaha.
Legrand liked it! You'll meet him here. :)

Yes I liked pretty much that book, don't read often anymore but Miss Hepburn got me to read that book.

I am actually translating it in French, who knows maybe it will get published in this Language.

Maya or the World is the last book to read, before there is only the reader left.

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Old 17-06-2021, 12:54 PM
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Namaskar
Well, now we are in an illusion. We can see only the atoms - and not within 'the subtlest of the subtle'. A Dream/Maya, where the atoms are not present actually, but we sense it is bcz of illusion.
How to realize and come out of this MAYA?

Well there is no answer to the "How"
Now that the "Seeking" has begun, let it take you on a path that fancies you.
If and when there is a revelation that "You are Consciousness", you which you often refer to as "me" will have disappeared completely.
Namaskar
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Old 17-06-2021, 01:59 PM
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If and when there is a revelation that "You are Consciousness", you which you often refer to as "me" will have disappeared completely.
There are 2 steps. One can have the revelation of being consciousness, but still be attached to a physical body and have a sense of self.

I exist, as a consciousness and a physical body. I may be a servant of God, but still, I exist as a separate entity.

Then we can expand our consciousness, but that's another thing.

What do you think, or rather, what have you experimented?
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Old 17-06-2021, 02:56 PM
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If things don't go your way, it means you're not aligned. Then you can be in a nightmare, or some stuffs you haven't chosen. If I quote the most famous guru of youtube (Sadhguru), he keeps saying that people are just living their own drama. And that's true. It's their own drama and their neighbor's drama also.
If you align, things will go your way, you'll see your neighbor differently, and you'll be in a dream. That's it!

EDIT: Or I should rephrase myself: if you go the way things go and let go of your way, you'll be in the dream!

I don't want things to go in a way. I don't want any things at all (just a combination of atoms). But, what's the 'way' to realize and see clearly that "Everything is Maya" and feel the 'presence' of 'Brahman/The One/That' every moment without falling to senses?

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There are many paths suited for each person.
Have you practiced one for awhile yet? If not, just keeping the mind focused on the knowledge
you have already that this place is not real helps.

Is it? It helps to 'enlightenment'? Is there any person 'realized' this way (other than who said it in Upanishads/Buddha)?

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Well there is no answer to the "How"
Now that the "Seeking" has begun, let it take you on a path that fancies you.
If and when there is a revelation that "You are Consciousness", you which you often refer to as "me" will have disappeared completely.
Namaskar

Yes. But, the path that fancies me can be a 'delusion'. Isn't it?.

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Choose and engage a path and its tenets and practices.

Fine. Could you show a person alive, who choosed a path (in paths of 4 yogas/Buddhism/sanyasa),etc.. and 'realized' actually? (or) is there just a business of 'relieving mental stress' going on in the name of "meditation, Devotion and Yoga'?

Is I have to do mediation and feel it's presence 24/7 without engaging in Karma/action for the responsibilities - like Buddha,etc..(Sit like a stone)?
(or) Sing and dance about the 'single/supreme reality'(who has the quality of Maya) and totally devoted to the one (Like Krishna/Jesus/Mohammad says)
(or) Retire to sannyasa/Ashrama?
If so which ashrama? Does any person in any ashrama is actually 'enlightened' (or) just deluding others (or) using siddhi powers and have caught in 'ahankara'?

A guru stands there and says "Come to this path. I will show you". Another guru in a different path says "Don't go to him. He is a fool. Come to me". The chief disciples says "don't go to both of them. They are just running for Name,fame,money,business,politics,material desires,sex,etc.. We are the witness. But we can't say it openly to others." So where shall we go?

What is actually 'meditation'? Sitting completely without thoughts in a room for '30 minutes' and again engage us and run for desires,pleasures and suffer and again sit for an hour and increase our desires,attachments?

What shall we/I do?
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