What was, is and will be?

[Ewwerrin]

Inspired by the unexpected kindness of Miss Heppburn.

Let's focus on: What was, is and will be.

What was, is and will be?

What is absolute? Sometimes I think, nothing is absolute, and that is absolute.

Pure undefined beingness. Without becoming. Yet the realisation and perspective of it, changes, and gives rise to its ever expanding becoming. Or it's absolute being gives rise to its own ever expanding self realisation which is still firmly rooted in its absolute beingness.

Just an idea. But...

What do you think? I would love to hear YOUR perspective on this!

[Miss Hepburn]

What. You didn't expect kindness from me ...hahahahLOL
.......
''What is absolute?" Wow, good question, E.
Absolute beingness..Good one.

My take:
That which is never-ending, infinite, eternal, always was, is now and always will be? That which does not end.

The topic will eventually get to this I think - might as well, bring it up now if there are no objections:
That's why I don't 'do mantras', for example ---why?
Sure, they quiet the mind sometimes giving it something to focus on,
that's nice and a good thing...but, then
the mantra (or the candle flame), ends.
How can you get to the Infinite, ie, an experience of the Infinite, by focusing on something finite??

I say, focus on That that is everywhere and in everything, making your fingernails grow while you sleep....what is
'that Power"?
Focus on what is that Unseen Power that holds a tree invisibly within an apple seed?
Focus on 'That'.


And because this is in the LOA section...see what is attracted! See what bends toward you - see what comes. Oh yeah!

[inavalan]

This makes sense only in terms of "time", and time isn't absolute even in the physical. Also there is nothing that doesn't change.

Maybe you can expand on what you're alluding to.

As they say: if you can't explain what it is, try to explain what it isn't.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by inavalan

This makes sense only in terms of "time", and time isn't absolute even in the physical. Also there is nothing that doesn't change.
Maybe you can expand on what you're alluding to.
As they say: if you can't explain what it is, try to explain what it isn't.

Time? there's no time - why talk about it. In fact,
did you read Bartholomew's green fonted new thread? Hmm, God and Satan' maybe.
Excellent talk on time!

Allude? I thought I was very clear ---the Unseen power behind everything; ...so close It makes your hair grow, it maintains
amazing things like gravity, so invisible,
yet right in front of our faces.
It is profoundly what is the 'thing' to focus on rather than transitory things...that are sweet, they serve a purpose...
don't get me wrong.


What does the heart of a yogi, a seeker, a spiritual student yearn for ---a mantra? A Bhajan? Prayer beads?
Or the Unseen keeping his body warm ...that Thing that when It leaves that is when it's temperature drops and leaves it limp.
What is That?
That's where the quest is, I say - that's where the path begins in seeking the Kingdom of God and Heaven.
My take. (No on has to agree.)

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Time? there's no time - why talk about it. In fact,
did you read Bartholomew's green fonted new thread? Hmm, God and Satan' maybe.
Excellent talk on time!

Allude? I thought I was very clear ---the Unseen power behind everything; ...so close It makes your hair grow, it maintains
amazing things like gravity, so invisible,
yet right in front of our faces.
It is profoundly what is the 'thing' to focus on rather than transitory things...that are sweet, they serve a purpose...
don't get me wrong.


What does the heart of a yogi, a seeker, a spiritual student yearn for ---a mantra? A Bhajan? Prayer beads?
Or the Unseen keeping his body warm ...that Thing that when It leaves that is when it's temperature drops and leaves it limp.
What is That?
That's where the quest is, I say - that's where the path begins in seeking the Kingdom of God and Heaven.
My take. (No on has to agree.)

I was addressing more this thread's original poster, but I didn't quote him/her.

Surely there is time. It just isn't what it seems to be to most of us.

I didn't say you alluded to anything, but thank you for replying.

That thing that goes away is focus or awareness, and it marks the first step to the dissolution back into elementary consciousness, when intention is removed ("dust to dust" symbolically).

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by inavalan

(I don't read Bartholomew's, because I disagree with his views,
and because he was rude and didn't apologize; why bother).

I forgot that was you. I'm waiting, also ...But it was James, not B.
This talk is quite worth it from B, tho. Actually, fascinating in it's clarity.

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=139146

And sorry - you posted right after me so I had no idea you were taking to the op.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

I forgot that was you. I'm waiting, also ...But it was James, not B.
This talk is quite worth it from B, tho. Actually, fascinating in it's clarity.

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=139146

And sorry - you posted right after me so I had no idea you were taking to the op.

Thanks for the link. I browsed it yesterday after you mentioned it, but because you were kind to post the link, I carefully read that thread's opening post.

I definitely agree with

Be fearless and be free.

Regarding time ... The way I understand it, this time (as well as this space), are special features of the physical framework that allow us to make mistakes in creating reality in a protective environment.

There is no relationship between the time we experience, and the psychological time experienced in the non-physical. From the non-physical perspective, our physical time is a coordinate of our experience as the space is. It can be accessed at any point. For example, one can reincarnate in the future, past, or present relatively to their previous incarnation.

As far as I know, there is no "time slowdown" on "higher realms". There just is another concept of time.

Regarding oneness ... My perspective is that this concept is a misunderstanding. The wider-reality is in permanent expansion and individualization. The "progress" is in that direction. Looking up toward a "oneness" means actually for each one of us to look backwards to the source we sprung of, to which we aren't supposed to return, and we couldn't return even if we wanted.

[inavalan]

Seth said:

"Now if you will allow me, creativity is born from desire. To deny creativity is to deny All That Is, is to deny the vitality that was born itself out of its own desire. To deny individuality or to speak in terms of nirvana is to deny the vitality from which all originally came, in your terms."

—TECS3 ESP Class Session, May 18, 1971