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Old 11-09-2019, 06:21 PM
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answer me this sky, how come we need many paths to a God who is everywhere yet hidden in everything? why are there multiple paths to a universal deity?
the path through Jesus exists and is real, even if others also are good at this
if you want all paths to be made the same, i can't ever see that happening, but i can see the different paths existing together, but they can't be made the same
Ask somebody "Who created everything?"
And the answer you usually get is God.
Ask somebody "I thought God created Jesus and Jesus created everything else, correct?"
Some times you will get an answer "Yes".

Then somebody starts studying the Bible all by itself. They do not get too far in that of acquiring knowledge and
understanding. Then they start studying the scriptures in Hebrew and Greek and the more they study, the
more they see how what was 'original' got changed/altered into a completely different religion.
The Truth is probably there somewhere but a person may have to go down multiple paths in order to find it.
But then some say all you got to do is believe in Jesus...... but which Jesus?
The original or one of the many that apparently appear as though forms?
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:48 PM
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Ask somebody "Who created everything?"
And the answer you usually get is God.
Ask somebody "I thought God created Jesus and Jesus created everything else, correct?"
Some times you will get an answer "Yes".

Then somebody starts studying the Bible all by itself. They do not get too far in that of acquiring knowledge and
understanding. Then they start studying the scriptures in Hebrew and Greek and the more they study, the
more they see how what was 'original' got changed/altered into a completely different religion.
The Truth is probably there somewhere but a person may have to go down multiple paths in order to find it.
But then some say all you got to do is believe in Jesus...... but which Jesus?
The original or one of the many that apparently appear as though forms?



Exactly BJ, that's why there are different courses for different horses
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:16 PM
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Exactly BJ, that's why there are different courses for different horses
But there is more.........

As I already mentioned, God created Jesus and Jesus created everything else.
But in the days of Noah, God got so mad he destroyed all the people,
all of the animals and all of the plants except for those that were on the Ark.

Some people have speculated that Jesus may not have done a very
good job in creating and God had to come and clean up the mess.

But then, it was God who created Jesus in the first place.
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Old 11-09-2019, 08:30 PM
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But there is more.........

As I already mentioned, God created Jesus and Jesus created everything else.
But in the days of Noah, God got so mad he destroyed all the people,
all of the animals and all of the plants except for those that were on the Ark.

Some people have speculated that Jesus may not have done a very
good job in creating and God had to come and clean up the mess.

But then, it was God who created Jesus in the first place.



I used to believe these FairyTales but after eating all my fruit and veg I grew bigger and didn't need them anymore I do wonder though how did the Dino's fit on that ark....
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:06 PM
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' how come we need many paths to a God '

Different horses for different courses....

but you yourself are on a course along with everyone else, while portraying your own one as the only one that's true and undermining other views, its very easy to see this and wish you'd be more open minded
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:10 AM
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but you yourself are on a course along with everyone else, while portraying your own one as the only one that's true and undermining other views, its very easy to see this and wish you'd be more open minded


I don't think my way is the only way, It's the only way for me obviously but never for others. I have Friends from different belief systems and would never undermine their views.

I go to Buddhists Temples, Spiritualist Churches have Atheist Friends, I practise Taoist Qigong, Taoist Tai Chi and Buddhists Tai Chi, I am extremely open minded
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:18 AM
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I used to believe these FairyTales but after eating all my fruit and veg I grew bigger and didn't need them anymore I do wonder though how did the Dino's fit on that ark....
You don't know...... God directed them to walk and board the Ark.

But as the Ark raised higher then the Himalayan mountains, the extreme cold and oxygen deficiency killed off the dinosaurs. That is why we have fossils today. Too bad for those trees at the bottom of the water. The water pressure was very great but not great enough to produce diamonds.

If you remember, Noah stayed on the Ark for over one year. I can just image how smelly the Ark smelled that is why it did not survive.
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Old 12-09-2019, 06:55 AM
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But as the Ark raised higher then the Himalayan mountains, the extreme cold and oxygen deficiency
Yes, they would have been on the ark for ages, up there above the highest mountains, freezing cold & hidden from the rays of the sun behind rain clouds. Waiting for the water to reside, to a level that was comfortable for them to survive.

Just think about people climbing Everest in harsh conditions without oxygen or the clothing nessesary. think of the frost bite on themselves & animals. They would have frozen animals left right & centre.
They would have been out of their minds without oxygen canisters, they could not have survived.

& all of that water would have kept them up high for so long. because all of that water had no where to go, all at once.
So then they wait, for some where to exit the ark...But where...oh my, what a shomozle.

& where did all of that water actually come from. & would the water have frozen around the ark whilst up so high.

The concept of it all just seems so wrong.
& as we know from humans climbing to the tip of Everest without oxygen & staying there for extended periods of time, would be impossible. then we could surmise that anyone on the ark up so high could surely not survive.

& so if the above is true, as proven through history, then what about the rest of the biblical story...is it all more than semi false & very misleading ?
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:08 AM
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I am extremely open minded

Which is all very well. This whole forum applauds that. However Christians don't exactly aim to be open minded - they aim to be true to Christ. That is what this small section of SF is about. The Christian aspect.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:10 AM
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The truth is who cares if you believe the Christian fairy tales or not. Most members of SF don't. But they have the courtesy not to invade the Christian section where Christians are free to express their views.
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