Is there such thing as a "wrong choice?"

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by sky

So if I choose to cross the Train Track when I see a Train coming along what can I do with the results,

You would most likely die, that is all. Your body would die, you can not die.
The game would be over for you, that is all.

[Unseeking Seeker]

There’s a great YouTube video by Eckhart Tolle on free will, where long story short, he says we do not have free will because we are not conscious * (*of our true nature) so why then karma if we are not responsible? Here he goes on to say that for us to become aware of our unconsciousness, to know the consequences of our ignorance, karma comes into play, otherwise we will never wake up.

https://youtu.be/MEatCKgB6Qc

[Starman]

A child may learn from bad choices, like touching a hot stove, but we expect for adults to know better. So choices in many ways are based on our experience and what we have learned from the past, or seen what others have gone through. Whether we make a right choice or wrong choice there is something to learn from our choices.

Lots of people make decisions one way or another because they feel they have no choice or other options. Its like the decision is being made for them. People who take their own life usually feel that is their best choice or only choice. But in my opinion there are always options.

“All paths eventually lead to the same outcome; some go through the bush, some go around the bush, some go under or over the bush.” But they will all eventually have the same outcome. Things we have to make decisions about come to us for a reason; whether or not we consider them right or wrong, in my opinion decisions, no matter how easy or hard, are there to help us grow.

[Redchic12]

Hi Starman glad to see you back because I’ve been wanting to ask you a question.

I posted a thread sometime ago but you were not active on the forum at the time so i thought I would catch you on this one.

I’ve been reading a lot about the world being a simulation and I was wondering what your thoughts are about this topic.

Many thanks

[Starman]

Redchic12, in my opinion this physical life, indeed the physical universe, is an empty shell held together, given substance, animated, and bought to life by pure spirit. It is a reflection of light or energy emanating from within it.

A simulation is something which imitates an actual or more real event or circumstance; in this regard yes, physical existence is a simulation for a greater, more real, existence. Physical life is a learning ground where we develop a greater awareness, in this regard for the purpose of consciousness development it simulates the journey ahead, beyond physical existence. In my opinion human life is basic training for consciousness.

All of the elements are here to further consciousness development. Life on Earth is a very unique experience. Although I do look at human life as the kindergarten or maybe even pre-school of consciousness training. Physical life is a dream state and dreams simulate waking consciousness. Evolution mostly takes place when we sleep. What we learn in our waking hours incorporates itself into our being while we sleep. Healing and rejuvenation takes place when we sleep.

Human life is called a dream state because an expanded awareness feels more real than perceiving through our five physical senses. We can only sustain so much wakefulness in a human body. Conscious spiritual growth transforms the cells in our physical body so we can sustain more of that pure unfiltered energy. Simulations are for training to be able to endure the real thing. Here is where the seemingly many consciously return to its primordial oneness.

There are many levels of reality, in my opinion, and each level has the potential to prepare us for the next level. Each level is a simulation for the next level; until there are no more levels, no more realms or simulations. No more objectivity or separateness, and we exist as an indescribable one, without form, encompassing all within us. That state of being is beyond thoughts and words. Again, this is just my opinion based on some of my experiences.

Sorry for the long windedness and lengthy post……

[Joedohn]

Hi everybody,
I think there's not a such thing as "wrong choices"... We are all here for something... And we all have the choice to do whatever we think is good for us.... some theme are divin messages and if we don't capte it will... Restart again and again... maybe in a other for... more explicit or not... And some are important... dose one are clearer after we are not answering... Soooo it gives us the liberty of choice....

Love

Dohn

PS... It was a short resume of what think and it's not an absolute....

[Alfakyn]

I believe we all make decisions according to our own identities and beliefs in any given moment. Whether those are 'good' or 'bad' is entirely subjective, both to the person making the decisions, and the people perceiving them. Cultures, religions and communities have a way of ostracizing or idolizing certain behaviors and choices that may have been acceptable in the distant (or not so distant) past.

That being said, if we are working with the constraints of 'acceptable behavior' for your demographic or area, we can see whether something is good or bad, with our intentions coloring them or making them better or worse; more or less acceptable in the eyes of the public. We CAN change our identities though, and with time the collective beliefs of others. As said before, what's good or bad today might not be the case in the future, subjective to collective opinion.

A good question might be, is there any actions or decisions that are OBJECTIVELY good or bad? We start to get into discussions about faith and spirituality, which may still be subjective to that group and time.

[Native spirit]

My daughter works in a school one day the kids were playing
when a little girl started really crying,
everywhere she went she carried a little cat toy with her,
A little boy took the cat and put it in a pan on the toy stove saying yum yum I like eating cats.
He didn't know what he had done wrong because in his culture they used to eat cats he was Oriental,

He couldn't see anything wrong in it his parents had told him that it was ok to do that,
even though his parents had been told it is not right here now that is what i call a wrong choice because he is the one that will suffer from it.


Namaste

[Joedohn]

I agree with you, we call it parental consistency and coherence.. And I also think that the child does not have the maturity to understand everything.. It therefore remains a parental modeling which they choice whether this experience is: positive or positive negative or negative negative...

Again, it's a choice, otherwise... these are beliefs .. but they could be distorted thoughts..

Cultural is in it self complex....

Thinking according to our beliefs, values, and even hypothesis it could be an error.....

I think it's not a question of absolute reason..because. There's a lot of variables ....

What choice do we take ? ;-)

Because, with each response, word, that we receive or send... Our history in our universe, gives us a different perception for each of us.... or it's distorted for any reason.....

The discussion on the choices... could be very, very long.... And could create a form of cleavage which would swing from one continuum to another...

Because there are as many choices as there are ideas and in quantity multiply by the number of people.... who would like to share..tiers ideas .

Interesting.... yes... I find this subject fascinating...

Because in reality this is not a discussion about choices. it's a question about are own perception...

And in spiritually.It could something else right...

And I think the question... And maybe I'm completely off base..."Is there such thing as a "wrong choice?""..... Could be this: ( and I'm not correcting nobody I'm just sharing)

Is there a perspective of good or bad choice, whom could be punishable or not, in order to direct it, closer to our primary mission and the reason for being here on earth?


Still I think you have all the good answers...

Love

Dohn

[Starman]

Right and wrong are based on the culture in which we live and how the majority in that culture determine right from wrong. I have lived in oriental countries, and yes they do eat cats and see nothing wrong with it. Early Americans used to eat dog meat but today it is considered wrong to even talk about eating a dog or cat.

It has only been recently that a law was made making it illegal for people in the U.S. to eat dogs or cats; The Dog and Cat Meat Trade Prohibition Act of 2018 made it illegal for humans in the U.S. to eat dogs or cats. So it is not only considered morally wrong but it is also considered illegal in the U.S.

Things that are considered wrong in one country may not be considered wrong in another country. Therefore a right or wrong decision may depend on philosophy, morality, culture, and the laws of a country. Some people have no conscience about right and wrong and even if they make a so-called wrong decision, a decision that hurts others, they just laugh about it.