Resurrected Sri Yukteswar Describes Afterlife

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Geeta

I am going to start a thread with this question. But since you already asked me - my understanding of Moksha till now is - when one realizes one's true nature i.e. when one awakens to advaita (non duality) then one attains moksha.

Sounds OK. Yet, just consider that "awakening" and "attainment" are ultimately faulty metaphors, because it's not really an accretion "of something" or "to something," but a removal of many "somethings."

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Geeta

I am going to start a thread with this question. But since you already asked me - my understanding of Moksha till now is - when one realizes one's true nature i.e. when one awakens to advaita (non duality) then one attains moksha. ॐ

I am looking forward to your thread about moksha with great interest as I have had many interactions (not necessarily verbal) on this subject.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Sounds OK. Yet, just consider that "awakening" and "attainment" are ultimately faulty metaphors, because it's not really an accretion "of something" or "to something," but a removal of many "somethings."

Ramana Maharshi has questioned the Neti-Neti (not this, not this) removal approach and indicated that it merely confirms what you are NOT.

[Geeta]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Sounds OK. Yet, just consider that "awakening" and "attainment" are ultimately faulty metaphors, because it's not really an accretion "of something" or "to something," but a removal of many "somethings."

Indeed, without removal of many "somethings" and (if I may add) acknowledging the real nature of those many "somethings" one can't know one's true nature.
Speaking of the metaphors and like Still_Waters pointed out to Neti Neti, when one awakens to Advaita (non duality) one can see the world for what it truly is but doesn't deny its existence.
Besides only the liberated one knows what Neti Neti truly means.

ॐ

[Still_Waters]

QUOTE 104 EXCERPT:

Originally Posted by Geeta

Besides only the liberated one knows what Neti Neti truly means?

Would you consider Ramana Maharshi to be a liberated one who knows what Neti Neti truly means?

[Geeta]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

QUOTE 104 EXCERPT:Would you consider Ramana Maharshi to be a liberated one who knows what Neti Neti truly means?

You asking me that question is like asking a tiniest flame if it thinks the sun is shining enough
Humanity is blessed with ascended masters / sages from all corners of the world, including śrī ramaṇa maharṣi.

ॐ

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Geeta

You asking me that question is like asking a tiniest flame if it thinks the sun is shining enough
Humanity is blessed with ascended masters / sages from all corners of the world, including śrī ramaṇa maharṣi.
ॐ

Just testing the waters.

[Miss Hepburn]

You didn't ask me ---but gee, the first person I would think of as liberated would actually BE Ramana Maharshi! ha! :)
Tho, who is to know. I flash on Nisargadatta, Ramakrishna - prob Yogananda, certainly his guru.
I don't think in terms of liberated or enlightened, myself ...sometimes I do about the word Awakened...
like awake from this dream...like I think Buddha was.
(Just explaining how I think..) Tho, I respect what Wagner said :)

PS I'm going to re-read Ch 43 of The Autobiography ...before my Anandamayi Ma book comes tomorrow!! Yay!

Geeta are you from India? If not too personal. I'm glad you're here, btw.

[Still_Waters]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

... the first person I would think of as liberated would actually BE Ramana Maharshi! ha! :)
I flash on Nisargadatta, Ramakrishna - prob Yogananda, certainly his guru.
PS I'm going to re-read Ch 43 of The Autobiography ...before my Anandamayi Ma book comes tomorrow!! Yay!

The public figures that came to my mind as well are very similar to the ones you mentioned ... Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta, Ramakrishna, Yukteswar (I'm not sure about his disciple, Paramahansa Yogananda), the Sufi Master Hazrat Inayat Khan (under whose son I practiced and whom Sufi Shaiks refer to as a "Master of Masters"), the Buddha and some others. It's interesting that you also mentioned Anandamayi Ma, who was a soul sister of my own teacher.

In addition, I would also include some extraordinary beings whom I encountered throughout the world whom one might call "hidden masters" and who completely avoid the public spotlight. Included in that group would be the "homeless" black sage with whom I had a mysterious 9-year connection right here in NYC. In retrospect, despite not realizing it at that time, I would consider that "homeless" sage to be one of the most extraordinary beings whom I've ever encountered and he still remains one of my foremost ideals.

I too don't think in terms of "liberated" or "enlightened". I am constantly amused by non-dualists who talk about being "liberated". Liberated from whom or what .... one's own Self? Like yourself, I use the Buddhist term "awakened" as in awakening from a dream.

[muffin]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

QUOTE 65 EXCERPT: Could you elaborate further on that?

Good afternoon Still_Waters

Maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=git61nISYK8