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Old 05-08-2020, 05:03 PM
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Incest is rife in the ot TM and you'll find many rules were written to suit.... You didn't take it ' Out of context ' you are wise.....

I don't know in what to believe anymore, I look at my fellow orthodox christians, some who spend their lives in churches and are very involved with christianity, I see saying things that contradict the Bible, for example, that God does not curse, we have Genesis 8:21 ( and not only ) where God talks about Himself cursing the ground.

Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

I have this feeling that there are more gods in the Bible, one of them is the true one, the Father of Christ, Christ, all the other seem to be lower gods impersonating the Father. I feel that christianity worships Christ and His Father but at the same worships lower deities who have left their mark in the scriptures.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:10 PM
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I don't know in what to believe anymore, I look at my fellow orthodox christians, some who spend their lives in churches and are very involved with christianity, I see saying things that contradict the Bible, for example, that God does not curse, we have Genesis 8:21 ( and not only ) where God talks about Himself cursing the ground.

Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

I have this feeling that there are more gods in the Bible, one of them is the true one, the Father of Christ, Christ, all the other seem to be lower gods impersonating the Father. I feel that christianity worships Christ and His Father but at the same worships lower deities who have left their mark in the scriptures.

Are you really finding this 'stuff' in the Bible or are you googling this information?
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As for incest in the Bible:

Adam and Eve produced off spring. It is obvious that the sons had sex with their sisters.


Prudent people will proclaim INCEST but........................
if you look deeply in virtually all the other religions, their accounts of first humans resonate with incest. You also have some religions that have no accounts of how humans got here........ nor do they have any accounts of how 'things all began'.
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I don't know in what to believe anymore, I look at my fellow orthodox christians, some who spend their lives in churches and are very involved with christianity, I see saying things that contradict the Bible, for example, that God does not curse, we have Genesis 8:21 ( and not only ) where God talks about Himself cursing the ground.

Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

I have this feeling that there are more gods in the Bible, one of them is the true one, the Father of Christ, Christ, all the other seem to be lower gods impersonating the Father. I feel that christianity worships Christ and His Father but at the same worships lower deities who have left their mark in the scriptures.

There we are. Your "Gnostic" perspective comes out.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:17 PM
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Are you really finding this 'stuff' in the Bible or are you googling this information?

I've been reading the Bible for years... do you really think I come here just like that?

Now you are going to tell me that God had to course and to punish humans for their evil deeds, even to wipe out the world with water... now I tell you that I've seen people who spend their lifetimes in churches and say things that totally contradict the Bible, that God does not curse!!

You fail to notice what I am trying to show.... sk123 understood.
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:19 PM
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I've been reading the Bible for years... do you really think I come here just like that?

Now you are going to tell me that God had to course and to punish humans for their evil deeds, even to wipe out the world with water... now I tell you that I've seen people who spend their lifetimes in churches and say things that totally contradict the Bible, that God does not curse!!

You fail to notice what I am trying to show.... sk123 understood.
         
          
        
       
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There we are. Your "Gnostic" perspective comes out.

Baptised and raised as an orthodox! Are you an orthodox? If you are not, according to our dogma, you won't make it to God!

I've read a little bit about the gnostics, their stories make little sense to me.

It's such a crime to ask questions and try to understand??? Do I really have to have some hidden agenda, I, who I am very sick and close to die, I who was offered power, money and even healing only to join a secret club, don't think so!!
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I don't know in what to believe anymore, I look at my fellow orthodox christians, some who spend their lives in churches and are very involved with christianity, I see saying things that contradict the Bible, for example, that God does not curse, we have Genesis 8:21 ( and not only ) where God talks about Himself cursing the ground.

Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

I have this feeling that there are more gods in the Bible, one of them is the true one, the Father of Christ, Christ, all the other seem to be lower gods impersonating the Father. I feel that christianity worships Christ and His Father but at the same worships lower deities who have left their mark in the scriptures.


It's not that there are different God's in the bible but different people writing there own personal beliefs and how they perceive God. Different perspectives so to speak... You have to remember TM the Scriptures were written by Man.....
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I've been reading the Bible for years... do you really think I come here just like that?

Now you are going to tell me that God had to course and to punish humans for their evil deeds, even to wipe out the world with water... now I tell you that I've seen people who spend their lifetimes in churches and say things that totally contradict the Bible, that God does not curse!!

You fail to notice what I am trying to show.... sk123 understood.


I understand you perfectly because like you I see the atrocities in the ot. You can see for yourself some cannot comprehend that a so called ' Holy Book ' in parts is very Ungodly and full of hypocrisy....
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Baptised and raised as an orthodox! Are you an orthodox? If you are not, according to our dogma, you won't make it to God!

I've read a little bit about the gnostics, their stories make little sense to me.

It's such a crime to ask questions and try to understand??? Do I really have to have some hidden agenda, I, who I am very sick and close to die, I who was offered power, money and even healing only to join a secret club, don't think so!!


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