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13-09-2020, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by green1
This depends on the Buddhist path I guess. According to Thich Nhat Hanh (a famous Vietnamese Thiền Buddhist monk), connection with God is very important, without it we waste our life:
https://youtu.be/lrJxMLesolk
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Nice video.
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13-09-2020, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
It's quite common to see various Meditation practices being called ' Buddhist ' when they are far from being so.
Plenty of info: online as to what's what ... I like TNH's Walking Meditation Teachings
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Yes indeed
Thick Nhat Hanh, truly good man..
Jl
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13-09-2020, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by janielee
Don't mistake that for Buddhist meditation. Without insight ...
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What do you mean?
It was Buddhist that brought to the attention of the World the Walking Buddhist Meditation.
I consider this one of the most effective meditations.
Too bad more people do not try it.
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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13-09-2020, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Nice video.
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Yes he knows what he’s talking about. He also mentions insight, without genuine vipassana, it’s not the fruits yet of Buddhist meditation
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13-09-2020, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gem
There are various references to suffering is the texts, and the basic is, birth is suffering, pain, illness, and old age are suffering... but within that paradigm, all experience is ultimately generated by mind, and we are all 100% responsible for generating our own suffering, and collectively responsibe for all the suffering in the world (in the sense that the world occurs in our minds). It all arises from ignorance and is perpetuated in delusion, and the meditation is to see for yourself, but it's not easy to see - it requires very subtle perception.
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Are you sure about that, Gem?
Are you responsible for the pain you experienced in birth? Or when you get hit by a random idiot on the road?
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Originally Posted by GlitterRose
Different paradigms have different names for the same thing. I've heard it called the higher self or the Holy Guardian Angel, the Divine Spark.
It's all about hearing that inner voice that always seems to know better. But that's not the hard part. The hard part is listening to it. Because every time you don't, it's a mistake.
I think sometimes our ego gets in the way, or we are somehow purposely sabotaging ourselves for some subconscious reason.
Anyway, the times I have been successful at listening to that inner voice, I was always better off than all those times when I ignored it.
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Some people consider bliss a spiritual experience, others consider it purely a physiological phenomenon.
Calling it ''the Holy Spirit'' or ''Guardian Angel'' makes quite a difference as well, I reckon..
And different paths and 'teachers' do express rather different views if you look closely. Obviously, it's because they are different people. Put a happy person on a year-long retreat or an unhappy sod on the same retreat, they'll have different experiences and come to different conclusions about the experience. Same with tripping, some get a bad trip. Some will say it is all in the brain, even if it's amazing, and others will say it is ''enlightenment''.
What happens is people use similar language, like in many discussions here on SF, but may not necessarily speak about the actual same things or come to the same conclusion.
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13-09-2020, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
Are you sure about that, Gem?
Are you responsible for the pain you experienced in birth? Or when you get hit by a random idiot on the road?
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As usual, using a word but not understanding its usage.
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Originally Posted by Altair
Some people consider bliss a spiritual experience, others consider it purely a physiological phenomenon.
Calling it ''the Holy Spirit'' or ''Guardian Angel'' makes quite a difference as well, I reckon..
And different paths and 'teachers' do express rather different views if you look closely. Obviously, it's because they are different people. Put a happy person on a year-long retreat or an unhappy sod on the same retreat, they'll have different experiences and come to different conclusions about the experience. Same with tripping, some get a bad trip. Some will say it is all in the brain, even if it's amazing, and others will say it is ''enlightenment''.
What happens is people use similar language, like in many discussions here on SF, but may not necessarily speak about the actual same things or come to the same conclusion.
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“Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.”
― Meister Eckhart
FACT.
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13-09-2020, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by janielee
As usual, using a word but not understanding its usage.
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It was a question meant for Gem. I'd like him to answer, as he responded to me.
I also consider him more knowledgeable about Buddhism than you.
You may be able to gather quotes and police others on here, but you are not an example of honesty and truthfulness.
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13-09-2020, 07:08 PM
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Aww thank you Altair, that means a lot to me, coming from you in particular, lol
JL
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13-09-2020, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by janielee
Aww thank you Altair, that means a lot to me, coming from you in particular, lol
JL
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janielee,
do you pride yourself in causing divisions?
When you thought Altair had the wrong understanding on the last issue, all you had to do is 'kindly' show him the right answer but instead, you added more coals to the fire so as to keep the rift wide.
These kinds of divisions are truly not necessary.
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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13-09-2020, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
It was a question meant for Gem. I'd like him to answer, as he responded to me.
I also consider him more knowledgeable about Buddhism than you.
You may be able to gather quotes and police others on here, but you are not an example of honesty and truthfulness.
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I'm pleased you took out the phrase "You are not trustworthy"
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