Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder?

[PureDevotionGirl]

Do you guys think demons cause schizophrenia and bipolar disorder? I think so, but I don't know if I believe it's true for every case or just a few... I know I've been battling some kind of demon/evil spirit being deeply attached to me for a while, and all the depression and anxiety and mood swings I had that I thought were just my own mental illness are virtually nonexistent since I've been working to build up my energy field, repair my chakras, and put up spiritual protection...

What are your thoughts?

[Hologram8]

I have been diagnosed schizophrenic ~ I am normal I just have some psychic and paranormal stuff going on

If you hear voices ~ Psychics call it clairaudience
doctors call it schizophrenia

I'm fine and normal ~ I just don't like being around evil people who mess with me ~ other than that I'm good

so ~ I'm normal ~ if they want to call me names and give me a paycheck for it ~ then I'm okay with that ~ it just makes my life easier

so ~ if they call me that I don't look down on myself ~ there is nothing wrong with me ~ I don't take offense to their name calling ~ I just take my paycheck

I really don't know anything at all about bipolar
I don't think my condition is caused by demons ~ I think I am blessed with some fun abilities
t feels like demonic oppression when evil people are spiritually ~ psychically ~ physically ~ or any other way attacking me ~ because thats what it is
their attacks can have a seriously bad affect on you ~ but thats something else ~ not schizophrenia ~ it's satanic ritual abuse
and if you choose the dark side ~ then your schizophrenia would probably be a dark demonic thing
I hear things and see things ~ but so do psychics and mediums ~ it's not so out of the ordinary on some forums

[PureDevotionGirl]

Originally Posted by Hologram8

I have been diagnosed schizophrenic ~ I am normal I just have some psychic and paranormal stuff going on

If you hear voices ~ Psychics call it clairaudience
doctors call it schizophrenia
I'm fine and normal ~ I just don't like being around evil people who mess with me ~ other than that I'm good

Thanks for your response, Hologram.

Yeah, I would agree with you I don't think the ability to hear voices is caused by demons or bad spirits, but I'd just say that sometimes the voices a person can hear will be from bad spirits or demons and I wish people didn't think the only way to make these bad voices and visions go away is to seek medication.

When they diagnosed me with bipolar disorder and gave me a prescription, the medication didn't help me, it actually helped the spirit trying to hurt me hurt me more... The side effects made me so weak and debilitated I could barely move or think and it had no effect on all the bad things the spirit was doing to me.

[Hologram8]

Originally Posted by PureDevotionGirl

Thanks for your response, Hologram.

Yeah, I would agree with you I don't think the ability to hear voices is caused by demons or bad spirits, but I'd just say that sometimes the voices a person can hear will be from bad spirits or demons and I wish people didn't think the only way to make these bad voices and visions go away is to seek medication.

When they diagnosed me with bipolar disorder and gave me a prescription, the medication didn't help me, it actually helped the spirit trying to hurt me hurt me more... The side effects made me so weak and debilitated I could barely move or think and it had no effect on all the bad things the spirit was doing to me.

I talked to a guy that heard voices and he told me that they tell him to do terrible things

the worst voices I hear don't tell me to do bad things or anything like that ~ they just sound like spies talking about my private stuff which I find menacing ~ sometimes it almost sounds like they are mocking me ~ but I rebuked those voices in the name of Jesus Christ and after that they shut up and left me alone

I take medication because I can't sleep without it ~ they won't prescribe me sleeping pills ~ they prescribe me medication for schizophrenia that makes you sleep


they want me to take the medication during the day time ~ but I wont do it because it's like you said ~ I would be a zombie ~ and I wouldn't even have enough strength to walk ~ it also causes heart problems and is destroying my 20 20 vision

the medication doesn't affect my situation at all ~ it just makes me sleep ~ it doesn't get rid of voices ~ jesus gets rid of voices ~ at least in my case

[FallingLeaves]

i'm diagnosed 'schizophrenic'. But that seems to be a matter of opinion as some buy it and some don't.

I do know my original dr. lost my interest when he asked a question and then summarily took my answer as a lie (it wasn't) then used the results of THAT observation to back up his developing theory I was schizophrenic. Apparently we schizophrenics like to lie, it is a vanity thing or something...

That said, the whole experience being in the system has been good for me. It made me think about my situation a different way!

The meds too, while they have certain side effects which maybe aren't so great, they kinda take the edge off... kinda like using a cane to walk around when your legs become unsteady... I complained loudly about having to take the 'sleeping' drugs early in the morning and they eventually found another drug to put me on...

but my thought is, schizophrenia and other diseases aren't so much diseases as the inability to avoid 'undesirable' parts of reality that 'normal' people get to avoid most of the time... kind of like lacking an immune system so you attract 'dis-ease'... I also think the people who get into that situation are getting a kind of training that 'normal' people just never see though. Could be another aspect of last becoming first I guess...

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

but my thought is, schizophrenia and other diseases aren't so much diseases as the inability to avoid 'undesirable' parts of reality that 'normal' people get to avoid most of the time... kind of like lacking an immune system so you attract 'dis-ease'... I also think the people who get into that situation are getting a kind of training that 'normal' people just never see though. Could be another aspect of last becoming first I guess...

Pretty much, yes. The unconscious comprises of some 90-95% of the total of our consciousness and it's responsible for pretty much most of how we perceive both our internal and external realities. For instance, what you see isn't what you see, what your eyes actually see is a projection onto the inside of the sphere of your eyeball. The brain flattens the image, divides in into three parts and each part is processed by different parts of the brain at different speeds. Then it's all stitched back together again and you see in 3D. Similarly with all of your senses, it's the processing of information and what you become conscious of is the 'end result'.

Dreams are the unconscious mind communicating with the conscious mind, and often they are the unconscious trying to make the conscious mind aware of something. In that respect dreams can be dis-ease because the unconscious may be trying to make the conscious mind aware of an issue. So your dream of a soaring bird could be your unconscious trying to tell you that you feel trapped and you need to 'fly free'. Something similar can happen with mental health issues in that things like deamons are representations or personifications of mental health issues. So no, those of "sound mind" never see demons because they don't have mental health issues that need to be addressed.

It's when we see demons and hear voices (I do too) that people with mental health issues actually become more aware of perceptual reality than "normal people". They become more conscious of their unconscious and believe it or not, become more self-aware than "normal people".

[Native spirit]

I would have to agree with Greenslade,


Namaste

[bobjob]

Dreams are the unconscious mind communicating with the conscious mind, and often they are the unconscious trying to make the conscious mind aware of something. In that respect dreams can be dis-ease because the unconscious may be trying to make the conscious mind aware of an issue.

hmmmm

So your dream of a soaring bird could be your unconscious trying to tell you that you feel trapped and you need to 'fly free'. Something similar can happen with mental health issues in that things like deamons are representations or personifications of mental health issues. So no, those of "sound mind" never see demons because they don't have mental health issues that need to be addressed.

It's when we see demons and hear voices (I do too) that people with mental health issues actually become more aware of perceptual reality than "normal people". They become more conscious of their unconscious and believe it or not, become more self-aware than "normal people".

They're all interesting, but as yet unproven, points - unless someone can point out relevant data I'm not aware of. To the best of my knowledge the nature and significance of dreams remains a subject of conjecture rather than fact.

Mental health may be better understood and a link between seeing demons and mental ill-health may be logical but again - as far as I'm aware - is still unproven.

Originally Posted by bobjob

hmmmm



They're all interesting, but as yet unproven, points - unless someone can point out relevant data I'm not aware of. To the best of my knowledge the nature and significance of dreams remains a subject of conjecture rather than fact.

Mental health may be better understood and a link between seeing demons and mental ill-health may be logical but again - as far as I'm aware - is still unproven.

And the extent of your knowledge is...?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

And the extent of your knowledge is...?

limited - What's YOURS?