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Old 07-03-2022, 02:28 PM
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It's alive but limping and all-but talked out I suspect.
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Old 07-03-2022, 03:26 PM
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Life is a dynamic phenomenon. The quest (for 'meaning') here is to identify and describe Its goals and dynamics (or means), I think.

Cultures and subcultures are social 'games' which derive from shared understandings in this regard.

Here's the one I am playing (excerpted from my treatise, "What Did Jesus Really Mean?"):

"I addressed the same truth analogically in the book, titled Godspeak 2000, which I completed in 1999 by way of saying: Your life is a part of all Life, much the way the movement of a molecule in its membrane is an integral component of a drum’s total excitation. What you know as Life-on-Earth is the conjoint response of our global ‘drumhead’ to a cosmic ‘drumbeat’, partly a function of activity stemming from the sun itself and partly a function of planetary movements. Like a tuning fork, but with much greater complexity because of the tremendous multiplicity and mutuality of our involvement, we all ‘vibrate’ together in reflexive co-motion. Beware, however, as in the case of any purely mechanical analogy, this too may be misleading. The ‘drummer’ in our case is actually The 'Spirit' which lives in and animates everything and everyone everywhere everywhen at once. It’s not like our sun and/or our planetary configurations are especially causal, in other words. Every aspect of Being, including ‘you’, is an influenced and influential, hence functionally integral, aspect of The Flow* of Creativity,* without exception.

[* Note: these asterisked words reference the same features of Life that Jesus metaphorically alluded to as ‘the Son’ and ‘the Father’ (which many also think and speak of as Christ and God, respectively), just in more action-descriptive terms I think.]

That being said, it has more recently struck me that developments in the field of modern computer systems may provide us with an even more illustrative model for the universally creative, feedback-loop based interfusion of The Essence (i.e. 'Spirit') of Creativity and the Life of every individual and amalgamated aspect of Its expression. To explore this proposition, imagine if you will that the main aim or goal of said Essence’s ‘program’ – the primary motive (i.e. 'desire') ensconced in its ‘source code’ – is to maximally express and thereby experience Love and Joy, to Joyfully express and experience Love and Lovingly express and experience Joy to the greatest possible degree in every possible way, or something like that.*

[* Not that this is the only available supposition, mind you. Many, for example, think and feel that the expression and experience of Power and Success is Life’s prime imperative and so believe that maximal actualization and experience of these (i.e., of Power and Success) must be The Cat’s Meow (idiomatically speaking). However, since I myself most keenly enjoy recalling and vicariously reliving the loving and joyful times I had as a child, and as I continue to spontaneously resonate with the ‘Spirit’ exuberantly displayed in the antics of the (unadulterated by conditioning) young of many species including ours, also having deeply appreciated ‘returning’ to expressing and experiencing Love and Joy after sometimes lengthy dry-spell detours and digressions therefrom, and having gradually become more and more thoughtfully impressed by Jesus’ saying things like: 'Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.' (Matthew 18:3); 'Because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure [i.e. that keeps on being loving] unto the end, the same shall be saved.' (Matthew 24:12‑13); and 'Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.' (Matthew 25:34), the proposition pertaining to the expression and experience of Love and Joy which I put forward in the preceding paragraph is the one I believe to be and so suggest is both the most pertinent and the most propitious in the long term.

Next, to picture the activity of the Living Entity of our Creation (i.e., of ‘the Son’), imagine a universe-sized network made up of an infinite array of banks upon banks of computers matrixially web-strung together by way of both parallel and series connections, all simultaneously, individually and together, multi-processing the above referenced Love and Joy ‘program’, with each processor and every amalgamation thereof functionally outputting the ‘solution’ it ‘calculates’ will most probably yield the greatest possible Love and Joy ‘result’ in its case (as far as it can prognostically project, that is), which ‘solution’ then operationally functions as input in relation to any and all associated processors to whatever extent they ‘calculate’ it to be relevant to their own Love and Joy process, such that said output-n-input data-packet sequences co-actively ripple and reverberate around the network, sparking Love and Joy focused perceptions and decisions (i.e., experiences and expressions) which conjointly determine what takes place here, there and everywhere in ‘the body’ of said Entity* over the course of time.

[* “In Him we live, and move, and have our being” (Acts 17:28) is how this was articulated by one who conceptualized said Entity as being the (male) ‘Son’ of The Spirit of the universal (male) ‘Father’ of Being, two millennia ago.]

As it ties many otherwise disparate, often apparently functionally contradictory aspects of Life’s process together in ways which make sense to me, I proffer this Love and Joy ‘program’ being universally, round-after-round multi-processed on a network of ‘computers’ model as potentially being of significant navigational assistance to others who also aim to holistically optimize the progression of Life in and around themselves, as I do."

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Old 07-03-2022, 03:51 PM
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Jeez! I feel like that's an attempt to indoctrinate me rather than invite a discussion! quote "Life is a dynamic phenomenon. The quest (for 'meaning') here is to identify and describe Its goals and dynamics...."

Of course life is dynamic - plainly it's not static.

As for its "goals and dynamics" they'll be different for each individual while following a broad principle of making spiritual progress back towards our common source.

All the rest is an over-abundance of words and personal ideas - I much prefer to keep things simple, sweetie. blessings
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Old 07-03-2022, 05:52 PM
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It differs from person to person. We all have something to learn, usually to help us in mastering one of the laws of the Universe. The lesson may be to master abundance consciousness instead of poverty, to forgive so that you can overcome abuse, to beat addiction, to learn kindness where in a past life you were an abuser and so on. These kinds of lessons. Learning whatever one you have is the meaning of your life in this lifetime.
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Old 07-03-2022, 06:08 PM
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...The lesson may be to master abundance consciousness instead of poverty, to forgive so that you can overcome abuse, to beat addiction, to learn kindness where in a past life you were an abuser and so on. These kinds of lessons. Learning whatever one you have is the meaning of your life in this lifetime.
Makes sense.

One of the 'features' (faculties?) of Life is Intelligence. From something I once wrote:

"Think about it: Life depends on there being an ever-evolving diversity of different and, therefore, in one or another way competing, sets of feelings and perceptions regarding what is and isn’t essential. If everything was absolutely consonant, there would be no progression in terms of learning and development, these being a function of the creative exercise of Intelligence and the intelligent exercise of Creativity. Existence, for it could not even be called Life in such case, would just be a round of the same set of symphonic notes endlessly repeating, because everything would then simply operate like clockwork."
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Old 07-03-2022, 06:19 PM
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Old 07-03-2022, 07:47 PM
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I would have to say that love is the meaning of life, without love life is empty and meaningless
Love utopia
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Old 07-03-2022, 09:56 PM
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How to understand it.. Some people understand this question as "what is life".

Ok, let me try to answer.
Darwin says, first life was created out of nothing from nonliving matter. I agree partly,
I mean I believe this is true, but doesn't explain much.

Why should a nonliving thing turn into a living thing.
What is the difference between those.
I don't know, but consciousness must be a key difference.

Life has some complexity, and any molecule or organ in a body has multiple functions (so a body is very compact,
too many functions in too little volume, great harmony).
This can't be explained with random creation of life, and mutation/natural selection alone.

What are other mechanisms which help with creation of life.
I think we can look at SNOWFLAKES. They have beautiful hexagonal shapes.
Using Darwin's methods we must say, they are hexagonal, because square/pentagonal/.. etc ones can't survive.. Not a good explanation, because probably square ones never existed even for a second.

Consciousness is like electricity.. When something dies, electricity goes away, and AURA, which is a function of electric activity, also goes away.
Until recently I would think about it this way. Of course far from being a satisfactory definition. NOW, I heard, people lose about 20 grams when they die, if correct,
this weight can't be explained with E=mc2. There must be something else.
Something in hidden dimensions must be happening which can't be seen in 3D level.
So, there is some QUANTUM level thing happening here. For example look at string theory. Maybe strings behave differently in living objects, they form some symmetry or something.

In short I have no idea, but one needs to look at auras, and high physicis, and maybe the answer is already known, and not told us.
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Old 08-03-2022, 12:24 AM
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What is the meaning of life

To me the word LIFE spells out this. Living-Intelligent-Focused-Energy =LIFE and life has no meaning whatsoever. it is an eternal reality that is unborn and forever in motion. To have meaning is giving an absolute immutable principle an emotive description, which is most unwise at best and plain ridiculous at worst.

LIFE is an intelligent ENERGY (spirit) and spirit is eternal and therefore UNBORN so the idea of life having any meaning, is that we do not fully understand what life eternally IS. LIFE is a meaningless eternal CONSTANT.


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Old 08-03-2022, 01:45 AM
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Your preference and derivative opinions are noted ... sweetie!

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pshaw?

I'm trying to keep things respectful even when I disagree with your approach. It's unrealistic to expect eveyone - or anyone - to agree with you and I speak from long personal experience of folk disagreeing with me!

Disagreement doesn't automatically = disrespect. blessings
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