Free Will ? What is it ? Illusions What are They ?

Tzu... Hi Grace: My parents moved to Florida when i was 7 years old, i spent my summers at my grandmother's horse farm in the mountains.. when we got to Fla. the teacher called my parents for a conference to discuss my 'speech'.. while the accent was its own issue, i also stuttered far worse than Porky Pig, so.. between the two, i spent 3 years in speech therapy.. what remains is a hint of 'The Old South', a genteel-like softness of expression.. until i get excited or nervous, then it can, as they say, "go South"..

Part of the speech therapy was imitating different accents, from which i developed a love of language and the effect of accent on expression.. i am fond of employing very subtle changes of accent during conversation to enhance or add emphasis to a phrase..

Be well..

Thank you so much Tzu for sharing part of your life story with me. I'm thrilled that you were able to have the support and encouragement that you needed to overcome the stuttering that you experienced in your early years. One of my uncles stutters to this very day, and my mother(his sister) overcame it on her own somehow before her teenage years. It started suddenly from having been traumatized by a very disturbing experience when she was very little, but there's no trace of it left today.

One of my earlier boyfriends stuttered too. It truly never bothered me at all(I had been around my uncle alot; he, my aunt and my cousins lived a street away), but this boyfriend was regularly upset about it, and needed alot of reassurance.

I love languages too, I do speak french fluently(and almost consistently for the past many years as my boyfriend is french speaking). I would love to learn italian next, I feel it would be easy for me.. english, french and italian are all latin based languages.

I adore a southern accent!..and Southern Comfort(the drink) too! I have family in Virginia, and we all spent time in South Carolina a few years ago. I was spoiled to hear it all around me for a couple of weeks, and I will definitely return someday to soak it all in again. It's simply superb, and so pleasingly polite to boot !!!

Greetings..

Thank you so much Tzu for sharing part of your life story with me.

A tip of the hat, and a gracious bow, to you Ms. Grace.. i should enjoy a walk onto the veranda with you, and perhaps one of our specialty beverages, a 'Southern Sweet Tea Teaser', liberally refreshed with Southern Comfort.. as you might be aware, Sister Janis (Joplin) had a fondness for the Comfort, Bless her soul, so it's best sipped.. intentions notwithstanding..

Be well..

Tzu... A tip of the hat, and a gracious bow, to you Ms. Grace.. i should enjoy a walk onto the veranda with you, and perhaps one of our specialty beverages, a 'Southern Sweet Tea Teaser', liberally refreshed with Southern Comfort.. as you might be aware, Sister Janis (Joplin) had a fondness for the Comfort, Bless her soul, so it's best sipped.. intentions notwithstanding..

Thank you kindly Sir, and I do have a collection of lovely teacups*(very true! I have about 50 original designs or so)... so that smooth southern drawl, a few drops of Comfort in a couple of cups of steaming hot tea, and some Janis(Bless her heart) in the background sounds like a purrrty fine time on the veranda to me!

Cheers!

Greetings..

a few drops of Comfort in a couple of cups of steaming hot tea, and some Janis(Bless her heart) in the background sounds like a purrrty fine time on the veranda to me!

Frankly, my dear.. i can't think of anything better..

Be well..

greeting from a Georgia peach! I think there’s a balance to everything. there’s no one way to anything. in saying that it will limit your horizons. there is a sort of destiny or karma but always a way to go around it. there are many types of karma, one being what one would say is an inevitable outcome like the rise and fall of Atlantis repeating itself again now.
A person can change a thousand years of 'bad karma' just by realizing ones true self and using ones will power to change and be a humble person.

ok stay with me for a second

Maybe in one life a person became more aware and died. then they would be able to choose more consciously what to do next. perhaps they could choose to be reborn with particular parents that would teach them the lessons they wanted to learn. maybe there parents were impatient but intelligent and taught them well then kicked them out on there own to learn the lessons the hard way. this may seem like bad karma, but after all the tribulations (that that doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger) they actually understand more about life and become enlightened because of it.

I think that karma is more of the fabric that holds together the universe and our free will is what really runs the show.

even with quantum physics it is said that you could go back in time, kill your father and nothing would change in your dimension. like Leonard Susskind said we could go through a black hole and nothing is lost our energy is converted into a type of hologram and sent back in our dimension.

you might be saying what in the world does this have to do with free will?

the universe is far more complex and its just an illusion anyway all dreamed up by us. the rules were meant to be twisted stretched and bent, the world is meant to be played with. there is definitely an order yes or everything would just tear apart, but there’s definitely play to the fabric and that is choice.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Verunia

Oh dear, the infamous free will threads. They have returned to SF with a vengeance, haha.

I think sadly we are just moving thru time... Everything has already happend,we just dont know it yet....

I would love to think we have FREE WILL but if that was truly the case,people couldnt give readings and what not because NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPEND YET so im not sure......

[Unseeking Seeker]

Originally Posted by Dude111

I think sadly we are just moving thru time... Everything has already happend,we just dont know it yet....

I would love to think we have FREE WILL but if that was truly the case,people couldnt give readings and what not because NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPEND YET so im not sure......

True. Consider déjà vu, clairvoyance, premonition ~ life, as we experience it, has already been impulsed in the ethereal domain. Free will exists at soul level, where, in my opinion, alignment with truth and love enableability are the goals.

Here on earth, crystallised in organic form, encased in the five sheaths of consciousness and memory of subconscious erased, access to superconscious self-blocked, we function in the narrow bandwidth of conscious mind. But just as in a dream, our free will, should we be aware (most of us aren’t aware or awake), free will yet exists in choosing response to what unfolds. If we take permission, so to say, from our conscience, moment to moment, for each thought, word and deed, gradually we are able to distinguish between urges of mind-body and that of soul or let us say, God’s light. So, operating at soul level whilst present here, yes, I’d say we have free will, otherwise not.

Without awareness, what is free will but instinct?

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Dude111

I would love to think we have FREE WILL but if that was truly the case,people couldnt give readings and what not because NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPEND YET so im not sure......

the LOA applies here... as long as go about deciding you don't have free will, you don't have it. Because you will further decide there is no point in even trying to choose if you decided don't have freedom to choose in the first place... and the whole thing snowballs.

But you can't prove you have free will either, without denying the very thing you seek to prove.

And this is the problem, our whole makeup is such that we prefer to decide we don't have free will, without even understanding that we are doing that or why it is a bad idea... in fact we even think what we are doing is inherently good.

That said there is hope, the whole point of those who run this reality (in my view) being to bring a sense of more freedom to move about. Which would to some people's dismay also imply less being able to divine other people's future choices on tortoise shells lol...

Jesus talked about what is going on this way:

I come that they may have life, and have it more abundantly.

[Dude111]

Jesus is beautiful!!

[Redchic12]

Mmmm do we have free will,or not?

Me thinks yes AND no.

I believe that we have chosen before we got here some major situations that we have to or want to deal with, wether it’s karma related or something on the soul level that we want to experience and learn from eg divorce, having a disability, moving to another country or having a violent parent. All of these things we cannot avoid because we have either a karmic tie to or we wish to learn something from them. So it seems in that respect we do not have free will whilst in the physical because we will have to encounter them.

Then on the other hand we DO have free will by deciding HOW we will deal with them, plus who we CHOOSE to help us deal with them.

So it’s a bit like a card game, we are dealt a hand but we make our own decisions on how to play them.

I could be wrong of course but that’s what sits right for me.