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Old 05-05-2014, 03:01 AM
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But again that's just what you believe, there is no evidence to any of it, so how can one debate such fantasy ?.

Well, you could try duplicating a "self creating universe" in the lab, or reproducing something from nothing. You could also offer another option on how to enforce the laws of physics.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:49 AM
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Well, you could try duplicating a "self creating universe" in the lab, or reproducing something from nothing. You could also offer another option on how to enforce the laws of physics.
But because these things cannot be done as yet, doesn't mean there is a god, don't you see, you are after evidence from science, but what evidence do you have that is better than science ??.
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Old 05-05-2014, 04:47 AM
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Fibonacci sequence in nature

THE INTELLECT IN NATURE
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:11 AM
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But because these things cannot be done as yet, doesn't mean there is a god, don't you see, you are after evidence from science, but what evidence do you have that is better than science ??.

The explanation of a "self generating universe" is handwaving. It's a deception. It's an attempt by atheists to fool other atheists, but nobody really believes it. My explanation is based upon the commonalities between quantum fields and the spirit phenomena that has been observed constantly for thousands of years. There are perfectly good reasons why spirits, ghosts even demons can exist and attack human beings; quantum field lifeforms are perfectly acceptable, and do not contradict the laws of physics.

Furthermore, Michelson-Morley were not scientists, they were magicians; they fooled everyone into believing that there was no aether. But the truth is there is no difference between quantum fields and an aether. The quantum vacuum is the technical term for what is basically an aether medium.

You should really take a closer look at reality. It's not what you think it is.
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:31 AM
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Oh Mazulu, you do make me laugh! You should be on telly.
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:42 AM
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THE INTELLECT IN NATURE
That's it, but no god, its all nature.
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:44 AM
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The explanation of a "self generating universe" is handwaving. It's a deception. It's an attempt by atheists to fool other atheists, but nobody really believes it. My explanation is based upon the commonalities between quantum fields and the spirit phenomena that has been observed constantly for thousands of years. There are perfectly good reasons why spirits, ghosts even demons can exist and attack human beings; quantum field lifeforms are perfectly acceptable, and do not contradict the laws of physics.

Furthermore, Michelson-Morley were not scientists, they were magicians; they fooled everyone into believing that there was no aether. But the truth is there is no difference between quantum fields and an aether. The quantum vacuum is the technical term for what is basically an aether medium.

You should really take a closer look at reality. It's not what you think it is.
No way can I swallow that, you throw quantum around as if you know all about it, while even quantum physics cannot even fully understand it.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:55 AM
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No way can I swallow that, you throw quantum around as if you know all about it, while even quantum physics cannot even fully understand it.

Yeah, there is a reason why they can't understand it. It's because it describes properties of an aether.
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Old 05-05-2014, 06:21 PM
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What does Genesis and science have to do with each other?

First of all, one must qualify just what science is at this juncture in the post-modern milieu. For example, one might submit science now is unbridled intelligence getting its absence of limits from technology, from a non-rational science coupled to the war machine (communications, vectors, and explosives). Because this 'military class' has become technocrats, they are the ones who consider rationality only in terms of its efficiency, with a horizon based on ever-increasing speed only. The negative horizon of science does not strike them, just like it is not striking you. It is not their problem. The blind spot is in not being a priest or Holy man. Being spiritual is an absurd leap of Faith, not a matter of nuclear destruction.
The doctrine of use, knowledge at work in effectiveness, utilization, is science's raison d'etre, save for we are even far short of this mark, also. They make tools so that they exist for a war in its pure form, without worrying about what happens when they are used. You are trapped in medieval times, 'ole son! Science and technology came from men's questions about nature, in the beginning. It was from this revealed knowledge about the riddle of nature that technology was produced. Since then, the riddle of science and technology has tended by its development to replace the riddle of nature. Is technology our new nature? It is our nature! And there are no scientists or technicians to answer this new riddle. They refuse to answer, because the scientists and engineers, claiming to know, don't allow anyone to inquire into the nature of technology. And so the riddle of technology becomes more fearsome than the riddle of nature. So, speak your slant on '*******ized science,' but the only thing Holy about science now is the 'holy war,' waged in peace, making us all slaves to speed, technology dictating to us its own laws!
It is too wet too plow, and science no longer has the wherewithal to answer metaphysical questions! In additon, the Bible is a revelation, not amenable to use forms.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:43 PM
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I'm surprised that nobody teaches "the physics of ghosts". I would simply borrow some ideas from quantum field theory. Maybe I'll write my ideas down here. It's really kind of simple once you understand things like Infinite Potential Wells and what happens when particles get trapped inside of them. It is laughable that the atheist-scientism skeptics don't even realize that everything that exists is either made of particles or fields. So why wouldn't there be quantum life-forms that we call ghosts or spirits? Atheists are so deluded.
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