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Old 01-12-2020, 09:50 PM
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My belief is the virus did come from one country giving no names but we all know.
Yes the virus is real and has and still is killing people.
But there is a lot of talk going on it is now cold and flu season. and they class that as covid. which it is not.
My friends are tree surgeons they went to one house last week. the owner comes out speaks to them. and then procedes to tell them he is an Undertaker.
So my friend said to him you must be busy because of this virus,
He went quiet for a while then he said dont believe Everything you read in the papers.

He said yes we are busy but its not for that reason. he then went on to say what i am about to tell you may surprise you,
Death is part of Life you cant have one without the other. he said when a doctor signs a death certificate they get paid £250 per one signing but if they say it was covid that caused the death it goes up to £1500 to £2500.

He said you have more than likely read about people who's loved ones passed with cancer or other things and yet it is put as covid that is the reason why, he said we have queried it yet we are told to keep quiet.

My other friends wife is a ward sister in a big hospital she has said yes we have had a couple of people come in with covid symptoms. but no where near what the government are saying it is fear mongering.

So make your own mind up having a positive outlook can help you beat an illness, BUT not always


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Thanks for that information.

I can think of a mixture of three factors that cause this misinformation:
  1. Out of control fear
  2. Stupidity:
    • people trying to make money and / or glory off it
    • people uncritically repeating what they read / hear from a kind of brainless affiliation to news and political outlets
  3. Nefarious manipulation
The least I believe of as a factor is the last one.

I am disappointed that this is happening.
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Native spirit
My belief is the virus did come from one country giving no names but we all know.
Yes the virus is real and has and still is killing people.
But there is a lot of talk going on it is now cold and flu season. and they class that as covid. which it is not.
My friends are tree surgeons they went to one house last week. the owner comes out speaks to them. and then procedes to tell them he is an Undertaker.
So my friend said to him you must be busy because of this virus,
He went quiet for a while then he said dont believe Everything you read in the papers.

He said yes we are busy but its not for that reason. he then went on to say what i am about to tell you may surprise you,
Death is part of Life you cant have one without the other. he said when a doctor signs a death certificate they get paid £250 per one signing but if they say it was covid that caused the death it goes up to £1500 to £2500.

He said you have more than likely read about people who's loved ones passed with cancer or other things and yet it is put as covid that is the reason why, he said we have queried it yet we are told to keep quiet.

My other friends wife is a ward sister in a big hospital she has said yes we have had a couple of people come in with covid symptoms. but no where near what the government are saying it is fear mongering.

So make your own mind up having a positive outlook can help you beat an illness, BUT not always


Namaste

Thanks for sharing..............
....... and thanks for having the 'guts' to do so.
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Native spirit
My belief is the virus did come from one country giving no names but we all know.
Yes the virus is real and has and still is killing people.
But there is a lot of talk going on it is now cold and flu season. and they class that as covid. which it is not.
My friends are tree surgeons they went to one house last week. the owner comes out speaks to them. and then procedes to tell them he is an Undertaker.
So my friend said to him you must be busy because of this virus,
He went quiet for a while then he said dont believe Everything you read in the papers.

He said yes we are busy but its not for that reason. he then went on to say what i am about to tell you may surprise you,
Death is part of Life you cant have one without the other. he said when a doctor signs a death certificate they get paid £250 per one signing but if they say it was covid that caused the death it goes up to £1500 to £2500.

He said you have more than likely read about people who's loved ones passed with cancer or other things and yet it is put as covid that is the reason why, he said we have queried it yet we are told to keep quiet.

My other friends wife is a ward sister in a big hospital she has said yes we have had a couple of people come in with covid symptoms. but no where near what the government are saying it is fear mongering.

So make your own mind up having a positive outlook can help you beat an illness, BUT not always


Namaste
It is always good to hear of other peoples experiences that go to show that things are NOT always what they seem. Yes, death is a part of life. It should be known that this kind of practice does exist. Money is the root of all evil as the saying goes. Look at the crazy, questionable things people do for it. Be it for ligament or immoral circumstances. This is the kind of practices that help perpetuate the hysteria and fallacy of the stats and data. Wakey wakey.
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:51 AM
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It is always good to hear of other peoples experiences that go to show that things are NOT always what they seem. Yes, death is a part of life. It should be known that this kind of practice does exist. Money is the root of all evil as the saying goes. Look at the crazy, questionable things people do for it. Be it for ligament or immoral circumstances. This is the kind of practices that help perpetuate the hysteria and fallacy of the stats and data. Wakey wakey.

From what I have seen, I do think that almost all, if not all, of the information about COVID-19 is valid. Some of it does not make any sense to me.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:41 AM
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From what I have seen, I do think that almost all, if not all, of the information about COVID-19 is valid. Some of it does not make any sense to me.
Which version, MSM or truthseeker?
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Old 02-12-2020, 06:27 PM
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Native Spirit, you raise a valid point. I worked in the healthcare field and saw many times how a health professional will bill for something the patient does not have in order to get paid more money. I am sure some of it is deliberate and some of it may be done out of ignorance. People are misdiagnosed all the time, which also means they will receive the wrong treatment regiment.

When it is done deliberately the false diagnosis is often put in for billing but not put in the patients’ chart. In all fairness sometimes there is overlap, or a person may have two or three medical diagnosis at the same time. It is called a “dual diagnosis” and it involves acknowledging that the person has more than one medical condition, or they may have a medical issue, a substance abuse issue, and a mental health issue at the same time.

Lots of people are rightfully given more than one diagnosis. So a person can have the flu and covid-19 at the same time, and they can be billed for both diagnosis. Although I do acknowledge that there are doctors in the medical and mental health fields who will bill a patient for the most expensive diagnosis and treatment even if that person has no evidence of that disease or disorder and is not being treated for it.

The question for me is on how large of a scale is this being done with COVID-19? People who die in hospital may or may not receive an autopsy to determine the cause of death. An official autopsy report details how the cause of death was determined. It is said that in some countries, like the U.S., the covid vaccine will be free to the public but I am sure someone is attempting to make a lot of money off of this.
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