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29-04-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by iamthat
We do not suddenly become all-knowing with immediate access to all the answers. Our thought patterns and beliefs and interests remain the same as before death.
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But we don't need to be ''all-knowing'' to have a changing ''mind''.
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Originally Posted by iamthat
Our thought patterns and beliefs and interests remain the same as before death.
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I very much doubt it. Seeing new worlds and having different feelings would change one's thoughts and beliefs, hence what is called ''mind'' would change. It is not a fixed thing, some parts being slow to change does not mean they don't change at all. Your mind is also not the same as when you were a child, it has changed, it gained new experiences and likely lost memories (you can't remember everything, or every day of even last month), and developed rationality.
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29-04-2023, 10:40 AM
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To me, every 'death' is an exit point for the soul.
The body will be left behind eventually and there are many ways to do that, suicide is one of them..
So I'll never judge someone who 'chooses' to leave..
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Originally Posted by Altair
Seeing new worlds and having different feelings would change one's thoughts and beliefs,
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Especially when you become a more expanded version of yourself after 'death'..
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29-04-2023, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
So the ''mind'' changes.. Eh....??
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You seem to have overlooked my sentence:
But perhaps the NDE is a heightened experience, and this mental expansion and clarity is not the common experience of those who have died.
We have to distinguish between the near-death experience and actual death. These are two very different experiences.
Peace
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29-04-2023, 07:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamthat
We have to distinguish between the near-death experience and actual death. These are two very different experiences.
Peace
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Yes that is true, but we don't know about ''actual death''. I think NDEs are more reliable.
In any case, the mind is subject to change, here ''in the body'' when it learns, experiences, and declines, and likely ''over there'', when it learns, experiences, expands, and so forth. So it's an ongoing story..
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29-04-2023, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
Seeing new worlds and having different feelings would change one's thoughts and beliefs, hence what is called ''mind'' would change.
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By all accounts our capacity to see new worlds and have different feelings will vary according to our development while still in the body.
So those who are relatively undeveloped will have the same mindset, the same thoughts and beliefs, as they had in their Earthly life.
Whereas those who are more developed will embrace a new existence filled with new opportunities. But their level of understanding does not immediately change - there is always more to learn.
Peace
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29-04-2023, 07:41 PM
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The thing with having a Near Death Experience you do not physically die
you come back from that ,
Death is another thing
You do not come back from that
Once the cord has broken that is it.
Namaste
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29-04-2023, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by iamthat
But their level of understanding does not immediately change - there is always more to learn.
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Do you check NDEs? You'd be surprised people can have a radical change.
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29-04-2023, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Altair
Do you check NDEs? You'd be surprised people can have a radical change.
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Indeed, I am familiar with the radical changes people can have after a near-death experience, and they return to Earthly life with a new perspective and perhaps new abilities.
But when it comes to actual death, how much do people change during the transition? We can only wait to find out for ourselves.
Peace
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