The Battle of Duality

"I happen to think that, in retrospect at least, 'reincarnation' will prove to have been one of the most culture sustaining and soul-development promoting ideas - this is why I have made it a 'central' (key?) feature of my treatise. That it happens to be 'true' (IMO) in terms of spiritual-Life 'reality' is just super-yummy 'icing" you view it as a good thing when in reality the only fruit that can be seen growing on that tree is the fruit of dieing with a false sense of knowing what's next.

[r6r6]

Aron, all of occupied space Universe is composed of interfering and non-interfering frequencies { /\/\/ } aka vibrations.

"Sound" primarily has to do with frequencys of air, water and/or land/rock/earth molecules, that humans, or other animals can hear with the ears or sensors associated with some parts of their brains.

Dolphins produce the highest water frequencies. See LINK
https://www.scienceworld.ca/resource...ion-vibration/

..."and porpoises can hear the fastest vibrations of all (up to 150,000 times per second)."...

Bats also create very high frequencies of air molecules.

There is a high limit, and that limit occurs when the vibration causes the atoms of the molecules to release photons of heat { infra-red } and no longer transfer frequencies higher of air molecules and same goes for w ater.

So sound is a finite set of frequencies that are mathatically not as long or short as electro-magnetic waves can exist.

Whales produce very low { long wave } frequencies of water molecules that can be heard 1000's of miles away.

To be clear frequency is a mathematical term, that is associated with sine-wave patterns of vibrations of electro-magnetic radiation { photons }, or,

air, water, land/rock/earthergo atoms not photons. Atoms electron cloud can release electrons or photons when and electron comes apart.

Originally Posted by AaronStar

Maya EL said "so you think we are sound waves" because I'm struggling with learning some more about physics now but I'm still . well struggling.

[HITESH SHAH]

Originally Posted by AaronStar

Hmm, that makes sense, thanks for all the comments!
By the way, I wrote another post, maybe you missed that as you quoted my first one?

What I liked most about your question and the post , the spirituality in it is original and very refreshing especially the very young age you are in .
The reason for this is that if u see the history of mankind there has never been a period where people have not believed in God. Very rarely you may have seen that . The reason is simple . Spirituality and God simply sustains the hope, belonging ,emotional enrichment etc . But to a greater extent this relationship is pains/gains based (meaning avoiding seen unforeseen pains suffering and gaining seen/unforeseen benefits/pleasures ) . And to a good extent depending on God without it resulting in doing bad is also good . But again that is carot/stick based relationship with God rather than intellectual love towards God . If u see , carot & stick is used to deal with mules and if humans also work with carot and stick ONLY , one can gauge what's that . Fortunately it is not the case in many cases and your question appeared to stem independent of pain/gain and which made me very happy and gave me a very great feeling that there are lot who are human being above and beyond animal kingdom.

Now the non-duality is extremely natural and common in human beings as cited in my examples in my earlier post . Even the people who oppose it are non-dual by compulsion .When we sleep/meditate , we default we become non-dual with God . We do not have any memories of who we are ,whom we love / hate . It is only when we awake we got all those memories back and we are recharged with energies and feel afresh and all our weariness of yesterday has gone. That is the reason of our association with God for few hours. So what you are trying to address by resolving your question is just extend your dormant compulsory non-duality to live and express your gratitude to the source being a great participant in the God's play in this world .

Originally Posted by AaronStar

Why would you say "keep it simple and sweet"?
So you think I did not try to keep it as simple as I could -- especially given the fact that I don't know it all and am still trying to figure it out?
Is this some sort of nagging?
I hope not because I don't need this when I try to understand such difficult subjects. I am not a physicist and my English is not perfect either, all I can do is share my vast notions and If you guys could help me out, then thanks.
If this is going to turn into a game of egos, then no thanks.

I'm saying this just in case because I don't need yet another one tiring attempt to have a conversation.

I believe I expressed myself a bit incorrectly.

All I can say is that the Essence of Life is spiritual (the unexplicable thing beyond all forms of (non / existence). Matter and energy are the realisations of a cosmic reality, that is part of the Allfather. So, all these physical manifestations are derived from, and are dependent on, the Paradise (not intended biblically). The ultimaton, the first measurable form of energy, has Paradise as its nucleus.

If you are asking for the structure of the fine bodies, to me they are more like swirling torsion fields .

" A torsion field is a term based on proposals that the quantum spin of particles can be used to cause emanations to carry information through vacuum orders of magnitude faster than the speed of light. "

As for the universes, and how they took their form, I think I explained in my previous message.

I think there isn't one single answer for all types of energies, as they are different.

I'm sorry if It sounded as if I accentuated on the word "frequency". To me, the Allbeing and the co-creators did apply this principle with different manifestations, so it's more like everything " has been further enclosed in its own vital laws and principles that keep it going and being as it is", rather than "frequency".

I meant it like the AllMind built a hologram inside itself where everything could seem so real with its physics laws, but in fact, this inexplicable force cannot be limited to duality only, i.e. limited by its secondary manifestations.

Maybe I shouldn't have used this word -- frequency.

I said keep it simple because the answer can be simple and not involve grouping dozens of things in the definition creating an extremely complex slurry of related items. This is not for an ego fight I am just trying to understand your views because you're using the same terminology that is very new age fluffy Duffy and based off of some assertions that aren't observable scientifically yep people run with it because that's what everybody else is saying so I was just asking for clarification with that said

so we're all on a Level Playing Field here's a quote from Wikipedia on the definition of frequency.

>>"Frequency*is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per*unit of time.[1]*It is also referred to as*temporal frequency, which emphasizes the contrast to*spatial frequency*and*angular frequency. Frequency is measured in units of*hertz*(Hz) which is equal to one occurrence of a repeating event per second. The*period*is the duration of time of one*cycle*in a repeating event, so the period is the*reciprocal*of the frequency"<<

now the reason I bring this up in the first place is because of what was said and I quote


>>Everything that exists is energy which has been enclosed in given frequency limits so that it can look like matter and existence. This frequency range is individual and unique for every element and functions as a membrane (which receives, emits and exchanges wave oscillations), which defines the "form" and the "condition" of the illusion matter. The frequencies are different as a limitation but are the same in their nature. This is why different individual oscillations get driven back from each other. An illusion for separation and interaction between different surfaces gets created. The field of energy is limiting the common energy in a certain zone which creates a gamut. The ends of this gamut (as energy is wave function) are boundaries which get conditionally accepted as polarities (up-down, left-right, front-back, plus-minus). This frequency - vibrational picture has its abilities and capacities. The vortex movement of the wave sucks in all other frequencies in itself but as a limitation it also repulses the rest of the separate individual unique fields. This membrane of the limitation has the possibility to receive and reflect. The specific frequency vibration creates the illusion for the detachment of a "image" enclosed in a form which needs to protect itself and interact with all that is outside of it."<<
so my question is do you think that we are made up of oscillating/ moving waves of matter/ substance/ energy and that everything is made of these cycling waves of substance just in varying degrees?

and if so then why do you believe that and do you have any evidence that conferms your beliefs?

Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH

What I liked most about your question and the post , the spirituality in it is original and very refreshing especially the very young age you are in .
The reason for this is that if u see the history of mankind there has never been a period where people have not believed in God. Very rarely you may have seen that . The reason is simple . Spirituality and God simply sustains the hope, belonging ,emotional enrichment etc . But to a greater extent this relationship is pains/gains based (meaning avoiding seen unforeseen pains suffering and gaining seen/unforeseen benefits/pleasures ) . And to a good extent depending on God without it resulting in doing bad is also good . But again that is carot/stick based relationship with God rather than intellectual love towards God . If u see , carot & stick is used to deal with mules and if humans also work with carot and stick ONLY , one can gauge what's that . Fortunately it is not the case in many cases and your question appeared to stem independent of pain/gain and which made me very happy and gave me a very great feeling that there are lot who are human being above and beyond animal kingdom.

Now the non-duality is extremely natural and common in human beings as cited in my examples in my earlier post . Even the people who oppose it are non-dual by compulsion .When we sleep/meditate , we default we become non-dual with God . We do not have any memories of who we are ,whom we love / hate . It is only when we awake we got all those memories back and we are recharged with energies and feel afresh and all our weariness of yesterday has gone. That is the reason of our association with God for few hours. So what you are trying to address by resolving your question is just extend your dormant compulsory non-duality to live and express your gratitude to the source being a great participant in the God's play in this world .

Perhaps that is your experience but it is not everyone's experience

Some people maintain their individuality even when sleeping.

[HITESH SHAH]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

Perhaps that is your experience but it is not everyone's experience

Some people maintain their individuality even when sleeping.

Certainly that is my experience and innumerable others also (in the past and present also).We can not precisely even tell which moment time we'll sleep and we can not tell precisely the moment we'll wakeup (without any external aids).At night all my worries and fatigue are taken and peace is granted . And in the morning again all memories are restored and freshness and energy is imparted. I dont know how all these processes work for me . I am always grateful for things which I don't know how it happens and I really can not do it myself on my own and are done free of cost without making me even aware of it's being done.

That's the beauty of God's way of working silently. For God variety is the spice of his creation. He deliberately makes his presence not known to many. (Because he is king of kings in this vast universe and may wish to maintain active contact with select few only because there may be long queue of people coming to ask something from him). That's perfectly ok . That's his pre-rogative and one can not question Him as a right . That's how u may still have all your individuality and associations active in your sleep .

Spirituality does not deny one to enjoy / recognize the dualities of life. In fact full understanding of its working and limitations is real appreciation of dualities & underlying God for what it is. So running away from life is really an insult of God . At the same time ,getting drowned in the dualities of life ( getting indulgent in the kick of pleasures or getting lost in sorrows) without being aware of super-soul and being grateful to Him in thoughts / speech /actions is also an insult of God . So the way out in life is to play with dualities in alignment and in the light/image of the divine in full force to win and stay grounded/humble/grateful/hopeful/loving for what all is there for us without negative feelings be it victory or defeat.

You have obviously been living in a bubble your entire life. It all sounds nice and cozy but like I said (bubble)

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

You view it as a good thing

Yes, I do.

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

when in reality the only fruit that can be seen growing on that tree is the fruit of dieing with a false sense of knowing what's next.

And that is your 'view'.

Beware, what you 'see' is what you 'get' - according to the LOA at least.

"On whatever sphere of being the mind of a man may be intent at the time of death, thither he will go." (The Bhagavad Gita, Ch.8)

Note: Even if your 'reality' is the only one that, in retrospect 'proves' to be 'real' (which I don't believe it is or will ever be the case), I would still prefer, because of the kind of life it 'leads' to my living, to live with(in) my 'view'.

A Chacun son gout!

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

You have obviously been living in a bubble your entire life. It all sounds nice and cozy but like I said (bubble)

Hi-Ho, un-nice-and-cozy bubble Lady!

Originally Posted by davidsun

Hi-Ho, un-nice-and-cozy bubble Lady!

That was not directed towards you