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27-12-2022, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sky
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. According to Scripture He was in the beginning with God and 'All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made '
I personally believe 'The Word' is referring to Jesus, does anyone have other interpretations please......
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Well in my view the word is something spoken, I take it as god had a desire and then spoke it into existance and interestingly became what he spoke. So sound is important.
According to the scripture you've quoted jesus was there even then, and a big part of what was being spoken into existance. And according to other scripture he became the embodiment of the word; the word made flesh. So flesh as a kind of solid thing took on the characteristics of the word.
There is also the fact that flesh is in large part water lol... even if it wasn't we know from science that all solids have the potential to become fluids under certain conditions of pressure and temperature. So fluids are important too.
In our way we 'see' the results. Although it could be argued we are completely misunderstanding the point behind what we see I think such doesn't even matter in terms of the plan... and despite our own desires it might even be beneficial for us to not be in lock-step with each other about what is going on lol... so anyway seeing/light is important too...
sorry for taking it on a tangent I'm in a mood tonite lol...
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27-12-2022, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by keiw1
The problem is there is no trinity god in existence.All mislead to serve it are breaking Gods #1 commandment daily
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Why is a belief in The Trinity breaking the First Commandment ?. |
27-12-2022, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FallingLeaves
Well in my view the word is something spoken, I take it as god had a desire and then spoke it into existance and interestingly became what he spoke.
sorry for taking it on a tangent I'm in a mood tonite lol...
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Yes I agree a word is something 'Spoken' but what do you personally think is the 'Word' ?
Your allowed to be in a 'mood' no apologies needed  |
27-12-2022, 10:53 AM
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the best I can do is, that to me the specific word spoken, is a breath of life.
But apparently, Jesus, as the embodiment of the word, did decide to die ignobly just because others wanted it. So apparently, there is some sort of life to be found through accepting death at the hands of others?
Well anyway he did thank god for hiding truth from the eyes of men, and moreover he hinted that he realized he never would have gotten away with letting them kill him if they had any idea what the end result must be in terms of the power and control they crave...
all this being my own opinion lol...
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27-12-2022, 02:26 PM
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Why is a belief in The Trinity breaking the First Commandment ?.
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May I? When you do not believe Jesus is God...yet, worship him as God...
that would be considered idol worshipping; a basic tenet of Jehovah Witnesses.
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Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
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27-12-2022, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sky
Why is a belief in The Trinity breaking the First Commandment ?.
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YHWH(Jehovah) = the Father is the only true God- a God exacting exclusive devotion. The commandment is #1 for a reason. |
28-12-2022, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
May I? When you do not believe Jesus is God...yet, worship him as God...
that would be considered idol worshipping; a basic tenet of Jehovah Witnesses.
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Doesn't the trinity call Jesus as God? I didn't think they saw Jesus as a separate entity. Why would they worship Jesus, if to them Jesus wasn't God?
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28-12-2022, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by innerlight
Doesn't the trinity call Jesus as God? I didn't think they saw Jesus as a separate entity.
Why would they worship Jesus, if to them Jesus wasn't God?
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JW's don't worship Jesus as God...that is why keiw1 said it breaks the 1st Commandment re idols.
I think I have that right. keiw1?
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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28-12-2022, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by keiw1
YHWH(Jehovah) = the Father is the only true God- a God exacting exclusive devotion. The commandment is #1 for a reason.
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Thank you, can you explain please how is the First Commandment being broken by those who believe in the Trinity ? |
28-12-2022, 04:33 PM
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It should be remembered that JW’s are not Christians so their fundamentals differ from Christianity……especially regarding salvation, etc.
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