A Buddhist Vision of The Beatitudes.

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

I've told you. Sorry if you can follow, but that's it.

Ok, thank you.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Eelco

I'll grant you the peacemakers.

I can find Dharma in each and everyone of Them and you don't have to grant me anything , it's not about me

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

There is a fundamental, universal logos (people seeking to demonstrate "discernment" pick each word to bits but it seems pretty clear to me and simple to understand) which makes itself known according to the various dispositions of sentient beings, each appropriating it according to their capacity to understand. This is upaya, or convenient means, a Mahayana teaching, easily found by googling.

If others wish to pick words like "blessed" to pieces and argue about which Faith "owns" it or originated it or whatever, count me out.

[sky]

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

If others wish to pick words like "blessed" to pieces and argue about which Faith "owns" it or originated it or whatever, count me out.

You can see beyond the words , your 'Blessed'....

[sky]

Originally Posted by AbodhiSky

It's really horrible writing in parts

Is it? Mybe you could personally point out what part is horrible, mybe .....

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

If others wish to pick words like "blessed" to pieces and argue about which Faith "owns" it or originated it or whatever, count me out.

It's not about the word blessed. It's about taking the concept of the beatitudes, whatever or wherever they emerged from and fabricating a connection to the Buddha's teachings. As far as I can see, there isn't one. And the discussion about how to go about it or the examples provided look far fetched.
Event though the sentiments are easily understood and superficially well meant. I see some serious drawbacks in adopting them as a practice as they are layed down now.


But then I doubted the intention for honest investigation from the start in this thread. So that may be what has colored my words here as well.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Eelco

But then I doubted the intention for honest investigation from the start in this thread. So that may be what has colored my words here as well.

Cause and effect

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

Originally Posted by Eelco

It's not about the word blessed.

That is basically the problem. Blessed are the merciful. It's "not about" mercy either!

Its about who said it, when they said it, who "owns" the words, whether or not it can be a basis for practice etc etc etc ad nauseam.

Which is obviously preferable to actually being merciful.

Yawn. I'm sorry sky. But dropping the obvious does not a conversation make.

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

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Which is obviously preferable to actually being merciful.

Correct. And now look if being merciful is part of the path to end suffering. Or being poor for that matter. Or to mourn?