Who was Sathya Sai Baba ?

[smilingsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

I also wonder if the fact that Jesus was crucified (or felt the need to be crucified) shows He was not fully in control too. It is all a mystery!

It's difficult for a normal person to know the how and why some very high beings like Jesus or Sathya have (maybe choosen ?) to endure some difficult situation.
We don't know all the parameters that the cosmic intelligence knows.

It could have to teach us some lesson maybe ?

The great sage Nisagadartta died from cancer and when one person asked him why he didn't tried to heal himself because in the sacred text it's written that a highly enlightened person could heal any illness. Nisargadatta answered he wasn't interested about healing, many people were anxious and sad for him, and brought medecine to him but he said he wasn't interested and that even the body was in agony, his spirit was in a state of immense bliss.
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I've also heard the story of a great sage told by Paul lowe (don't know the name of the sage) who was ill.

And again when he was asked why he didn't try to heal himself he answered that if he was healed it would cause some imbalance on the cosmic level.
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Maybe this will sounds too incredible, but Jesus didn't died after the cruxifiction. It was raining and the people decided to gom home, then he was rescued by some of his spiritual brothers, the Essenes. Then took a horse and went far away to the east where he lived until a very old age (approximately 90 years old). Jesus reincarnated aprroximately 60 years ago in Syria and worked/still works ??? as a cobbler. For sure he has a huge spiritual mission here on earth.

This is the "real" story, from the akashic records, written in the book of Daniel Meurois. In this book we also learn that Jesus was married. And Mataji, the sister of the mahavatar Babaji had an sexual relation with him, it was a few days episode to initiate him into tantra. Jesus also went to egypt, to india and he knew well the hindu religion and respected it a lot.

Jesus could, like Sathya, materialize things like food, gemstones, little jewelry and when necessary a tunic and a pair of sandals. And it was the master Morya who taught him to do that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morya_%28Theosophy%29

[smilingsun]

If you don't know it, i posted a picture of Sathya, considered to bring good energy and having healing powers.
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...d.php?t=146565

http://saibaba.ws/miracles/hiranyagarbha_lingam.jpg

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Control seems imp to you.
Not to me ---trust is WAY more imp, for me. Knowing all is perfect...
the way it's meant for me to grow and learn...the good, the bad and the ugly.
Control? Sure I can control some things.

I was not referring to control so much. More the fact that 'Gods' have the habit of overestimating themselves. If Christ actually was who He said He was then it would all be over by now. We would all be in heaven, having been redeemed. Or if Sai Baba was who he said he was then the world would have known peace while he was here. Instead humanity knew more wars and strife during Baba's lifetime than any time in the past.

In other words - no one is God Himself IMO. We are all just sparks. God is unfathomable.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Honza

If Christ actually was who He said He was then it would all be over by now. We would all be in heaven, having been redeemed.

Oh, really?
Sounds like you've got it all figured out the way it should be; according to Honza's logic. Ok.
Nothing much anyone can say to that ---it stands by itself.

[smilingsun]

Originally Posted by Honza

If Christ actually was who He said He was then it would all be over by now. We would all be in heaven, having been redeemed.

There are divine, cosmic laws, and one is the law of free will.
Spiritual evolution is something that can't be forced upon someone, it's a choice that each must do for himself or herself.

True teachers like Jesus and others didn't try to force others to follow them, their mission was simply to teach. It's like at university, the teacher can only teach and it's the student who will decide to listen or not, to study seriously or not.

It's only the dark entities who try to imposes things on others.

Originally Posted by Honza

Or if Sai Baba was who he said he was then the world would have known peace while he was here.

Like many great teachers,Sathya was a sad very very few people really understood and applied his message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rjmlw3-HWI

[Catsquotl]

Even though most Guru's radiate copious amounts of their energy that full fills their followers. Many just serve as a guidepost. A crutch if you will to project anyone own ideal of what it means to be enlightened. And as with most projections hardly anyone can live up to those.

Does it really matter if Sai Baba was or was not the Avatar of krshna?
Back then for a lot of people his message was one of hope and one that urged people to do a lot of good.
If you believed he was and practiced what he taught that should have been enough.
We crucified him with media accusations, just like we crucified Jesus.
Who was or was not God's own son. Didn't matter. If we read what he left us and practice what he taught some good will come of it.

With Love