Satanism?

[Being]

Hope that this is in the right place.

i'm very interested in studying all forms of spirituality.

i have looked into a lot of Theosophy, Alice Bailey, Magick, Western Esotericism, Luciferian, Ancient Druidic, Egyptian/Heliopitian, Shamanic, Alchemical, Hermetic, Secret Societies, comparative religion & many aspects of Esoteric (for the few) & Occult (Hidden Teachings). i practise Reiki/Energy Healing.

To many Christians whom i have got into some discussion with & their views on these areas is that a lot of it is Satanic. i have had a lot of talk & judgement that i'm possessed by demons, a Satanist & going to hell.

i'm Not a Christian in any exoteric sense, & i don't agree with a lot of it. imo the Devil/Satan does Not exist. Lucifer is an entirely different Being to the Devil, & i only see the Being of Lucifer in symbolic & mythological terms.

i don't consider myself a Satanist, although to a lot of Christians i probably am. Have other people here come across all this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

[H:O:R:A:C:E]

Being: Have other people here come across all this?

i have a concern that you may face a "witch-hunt" at some point in time.
the intolerant energies you've encountered may become emboldened and
decide that they wish to purge all non-compliant thinkers.
i do not wish for this to happen, but it could.
i suggest that you take steps to ensure that it doesn't, or to minimize the
effects of it if it should occur.
1- seek peace at all times. don't let your interests become a cause for
distress in others. let it be known that you seek a peaceful existence.
2- imagine that your spiritual inquiries are as a gentle flower... only open
your blossom to receiving loving light. [don't require that everyone should
give blessings to your flower -- shield it from hostile energies].
3- blessed be

[Being]

Thank you for the wise advice.

[MaryMagdaQueenofQueens]

I do not believe in the Satan or devil as a real entity, instead i see it as a dynamic of man, or energy type. Consciousness.
Alice bailey wrote some amazing things, and reiki is a beautiful thing.
I am pretty much A person who follows their own drum. I think the bible is a beautiful book as what alice wrote about, is with in it, just coded.
All spiritual teachings speak of magic and alchemy and energies within, the mind....


Back to topic. I have come to the conclusion that people who do not understand what i study and work with, will think it is "evil"
I am pretty much the christian definition of a Luciferian or, Satanist.
Many think reiki is of the devil, lol Alice baily would have been hung by her toes by the people i know...
Its sad that so many people live in boxed in small mindsets not allowing them to explore the possibilities and powers of Man.
Ahh and isn't it annoying to be crucified, by those who think that away, for being a seeker.....
Dont let it get to your head man, separate yourself from those who aren't open enough to accept you and your beliefs.

[Völvawitch]

Satanists don't believe in Satan but in your own free will.

Satanism actually has much better morals than any other religion and I am very interested at it.
I have read the Satanic bible and Luciferian magick and it is absolutely fascinating. It is all about taking power for yourself and live life in total freedom.

[shivatar]

Originally Posted by Völvawitch

Satanists don't believe in Satan but in your own free will.

Satanism actually has much better morals than any other religion and I am very interested at it.
I have read the Satanic bible and Luciferian magick and it is absolutely fascinating. It is all about taking power for yourself and live life in total freedom.

Even Satan didn't live in total freedom lol, he subjected himself to God and God alone. He hated humans because he blamed them for his fall, but he stuck to loving God even when he fell, he hates humans and that's it.

Do you honestly think one so full of hate could ever have created a religion for people? lol

It's a religion of humanity, by humanity for humanity. But not the best of humanity it's for the worst, it's not created by an entity that has nothing but hate for us... lol. I promise you that Lucifer would not give good things to us, he would give us lies and pain under the guise of good things.

If Lucifer had anything to do with satanism or Luciferian beliefs, he only allowed it to be inspired by his essence because it serves his needs of alienating humans from God. He sure as **** wouldn't give us something that brings us closer to God.... since the fall he basically has one goal, that is to get him self back into Gods graces. So long as God denies him, he has hatred for humans, when God allows him to repent then he will no longer hate humans.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by shivatar

I promise you that Lucifer would not give good things to us, he would give us lies and pain under the guise of good things.

funny, this is exactly what we are being given now. But we accept it and even say the words 'I like this'.

*shrugs*

[shivatar]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

funny, this is exactly what we are being given now. But we accept it and even say the words 'I like this'.

*shrugs*

Examples?

The modern world has basically everything we could ever want or dream of. I don't see what you mean.

[DoublyVenomous]

Originally Posted by Völvawitch

Satanists don't believe in Satan but in your own free will.

Agreed.

It's all about developing self-mastery and while this self-mastery can help you to succeed and it doesn't require sacrifice helpless animals or kids for that power. The sacrifices can come from within as life is energy exchange, for everything we gain we also give up something. There's also respect to self-mastery and freedom of choice for others, not just for self.


There are constructive and destructive people in every group regardless of which teachings they follow (if they follow) though. A religious (christian for example) leader isn't covert satanist if they turn out to be a murderer/rapist/spiritual abuser/drug dealer or anything; they're still supporter of their religion and they're violent, which may just have been hidden before. There's no outside entity to "own" their "sins". Similarly a satanist who would do such things is still a satanist who's committing a crime. Not everyone does this though.

It's not the belief system that makes one "good" or "evil", it's the way we apply those things into our lives. While having a common belief system may bring people a sense of security, would that security last if people feel they're forced to live according to something they don't feel right deep within?

Originally Posted by shivatar

It's a religion of humanity, by humanity for humanity. But not the best of humanity it's for the worst, it's not created by an entity that has nothing but hate for us... lol. I promise you that Lucifer would not give good things to us, he would give us lies and pain under the guise of good things.

If Lucifer had anything to do with satanism or Luciferian beliefs, he only allowed it to be inspired by his essence because it serves his needs of alienating humans from God. He sure as **** wouldn't give us something that brings us closer to God.... since the fall he basically has one goal, that is to get him self back into Gods graces. So long as God denies him, he has hatred for humans, when God allows him to repent then he will no longer hate humans.

All life is sacred, not just humans. While it's humane to be tolerant of difference (as we're all individuals and come with wide variety), I wouldn't love humanity either as they're the only species on Earth capable of destroying all life on it, which is already happening.
Love wouldn't exist without hatred, but instead of telling whether these are good or bad things, I'd say they're just natural parts of all sentient beings. So is pride; destructively proud person puts oneself above others as in sense of superiority and self-entitlement but constructively proud person is allowing others to shine too because one is confident in standing their own power and accepting that the only person we can truly control is ourselves.

[MaryMagdaQueenofQueens]

I just went and read the Nine Satanic Statements, and I have to say I do not see how this is helpful. or Morally above any thing else at all.
The reason that that i dont is because The Satanic statements seem to not care for Karma collected. The Indulgence in the seven sins have consequences, of imbalance with in.
I guess thats the difference, I see reason in self control, and in Patience Love and Mercy for all, because if i were to make mistakes, i would want some one to Be Merciful upon me. Not to take vengeance upon me.
I see reason in forgiveness, not vengence.
But there are so many different paths and people who want to and do different things, I suppose i am just, of the loving "Spiritual Pipe dream" type, as Lavey would say.