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Old 03-08-2022, 11:36 PM
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Can you prove your existence to me?

Obviously, you are there and real. But I have found that, since consciousness is not easily explained, it is easy to come to believe that "Only I exist and everything else is just an illusion."

Because even tho it isnt exactly true, it is also not exactly false either. And that may be a linguistic limitation.

When I say "Your awareness is the uniqueness of existence itself."
I am saying that to every single being of existence, including myself, whatever we experience, is eternally unchangingly unique and thus undefinable by any duality, including our awareness of duality, is equally the uniqueness of existence itself.

So this does not negate the existence of anything. Infact, the words "your awareness" can be replaced by any thing or any word, in this sentence.

But the wise one will replace the word "Your awareness" , in this sentence, by significant words. For example: "Time is the uniqueness of existence itself."
"Change is the uniqueness of existence itself."
The uniqueness of existence itself is the infinite eternal unchanging nondual absolute omni present truth.
This means that change and time are infact the unchanging uniqueness of existence itself.
And the same is true of awareness. Awareness cannot remain the same, because IT IS the uniqueness of existence itself, that awareness is made out of.

Awareness is not an actual thing, because it is forever unique. If you investigate it billion years from now, it will remain equally unchangingly unique. You have never actually experienced anything that is not unique. Even the inability to experience difference, is the uniqueness of existence itself. There are infinite versions of it also.

There is nothing outside of existence for existence to know or experience or become aware of. As non existence doesnt exist, proving that existence is unique.

Therefor, existence has never experienced anything other than its own uniqueness. It cannot experience itself as if it is forever the same. Because what is forever the same, is the uniqueness of existence itself. And so all experiences will also forever experience this eternally unchanging uniqueness of existence.

This means that if you go back quadrillion years in time, it will be equally infinitely unique. And you will also have a new unique experience of it, therefor all things are equally the uniqueness of existence itself. The same is true for the future. Even staying in the present and thinking about the future, you will be equally experiencing the uniqueness of existence itself. And when you literally go there, the same thing happens. Because this uniqueness of existence itself, has never changed, it cannot become more or less unique. It simply is unique. Always has been and always will be.

This is why the ego is unnecessery. To say, "I am the one and only one..." Yeah... But now? Before you are able to describe more of who you are, you are again unique. Not because you changed... But because the uniqueness of your being is infinite. Because you have always been unchangingly unique. Therefor, you cannot identify yourself, because you have always been the uniqueness of existence itself. The moment that you try to identify it, you forget that you ARE the uniqueness of existence itself.

To identify yourself/existence requires for there to be similarity in existence. And non existence doesnt exist.
Therefor, you will never be able to identify anything in and of existence and you never have and you are not ever identifying anything that exists. You are being the uniqueness of existence itself, and also thus being aware of it. Not because the uniqueness is changing from this to that. But you are aware, because the uniqueness of existence itself, is, eternally unchanging and infinitely absolute. Therefor, awareness is a consequence of the uniqueness of existence itself. It always has been and always will be infinite things. Unlike anything else. Why? Because there is only one thing, and there is no likeness to it, to even be able for it to experience any likeness or similarity.
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Old 05-08-2022, 01:33 AM
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Obviously, you are there and real. But I have found that, since consciousness is not easily explained, it is easy to come to believe that "Only I exist and everything else is just an illusion."
Its not at all obvious. You have no way to verify that I exist.

As per general eastern teachings (like Buddhism) you don't 'exist' either (i.e. there is no self).

Also be careful of the word 'exist'. Many mystical teachings say that ALL is an illusion and has no form or substance. As 'having form and substance' is one of the definitions of 'exist', everything might be disqualified as existing.
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Old 07-08-2022, 03:36 AM
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Its not at ...
... disqualified as existing.
Thanks.

That is a great reminder. It is always beyond definition. Too eternally and infinitely, unchangingly and absolutely unique.
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Old 14-08-2022, 11:41 PM
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@Ewwerrin, Your awareness of me replying to your post, should be all the proof you need of my existence.
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Old 15-08-2022, 04:38 AM
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@Ewwerrin, Your awareness of me replying to your post, should be all the proof you need of my existence.
Surely all that Ewwerrin is actually aware of is shapes and colours on a screen which the mind interprets as words. This is not proof of anyone's existence.

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Old 15-08-2022, 06:46 AM
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Surely all that Ewwerrin is actually aware of is shapes and colours on a screen which the mind interprets as words. This is not proof of anyone's existence.

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Well, Ewwerrin being aware of the shapes and colors on the screen is not proof that I don't exist either, nor does it prove my existence is an illusion/a fragment of Ewwerrin's imagination.
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Old 15-08-2022, 07:34 AM
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Conciousness is the only theme that really interests me

https://www.bing.com/search?q=closer...&ghacc=0&ghpl=
This is an unbelievable source of philosophy.

If the link doesn't work go to you tube and Closer to Truth
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Old 15-08-2022, 10:10 AM
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Conciousness is the only theme that really interests me
This is perhaps my favorite Closer to Truth segment. https://youtu.be/VxLyAOxJriY

This video illustrates Gino's point about qualia. https://youtu.be/XRmeL7UqE_g?list=PL...qIb4O F&t=346

Just like the clap is an object of consciousness so are thoughts and emotions.
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Old 15-08-2022, 06:27 PM
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Well, Ewwerrin being aware of the shapes and colors on the screen is not proof that I don't exist either, nor does it prove my existence is an illusion/a fragment of Ewwerrin's imagination.
We may infer that there are other beings with their own independent existence but all that we can know is our own subjective experience. Hence the difficulty of proving that anyone else exists.

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Old 22-08-2022, 05:03 PM
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We may infer that there are other beings with their own independent existence but all that we can know is our own subjective experience. Hence the difficulty of proving that anyone else exists
Another way to look at it or to perceive it is that brahman exists, and brahman is everything and everything is brahman, so everything exists as brahman, that includes the self, form and everything else.

It will make no sense to say that nothings exists and then say brahman is everything and everything is brahman in the same paragraph.
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