Who believes that Christ is greater than enlightenment?

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by sky

Do you personally think 'Enlightenment 'is overcoming physical death ?

I would have to say yes. Adam lived to be 980 yrs of age and we can't even pull of 100 without being old and frail. Why?
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[Justin Case]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

Adam lived to be 980 yrs of age and we can't even pull of 100 without being old and frail. Why?

Simply put ... Adam never existed.

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by Justin Case

Simply put ... Adam never existed.

Maybe he did, Maybe he didn't. We can't be certain of that, same as Jesus, maybe he existed, maybe he didn't.

The things is that there's record of it, whether it's truth or lie is a different story.
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[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

I would have to say yes. Adam lived to be 980 yrs of age and we can't even pull of 100 without being old and frail. Why?
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well it was clear we wanted to die... that isn't at all what we tell ourselves about life and death but it is the fact of what we wanted based on objective observation of what we were doing. By some entity/entities vastly more knowledgeable and powerful than us.

it was thought, making our lives shorter would give us more opportunities to reflect on that and maybe look for an alternative. And there was also no point in letting us be too happy with our lot if we were going to ruin the program by trying to die.

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by Justin Case

Simply put ... Adam never existed.

I could say the same thing about God, he's nowhere to be seen same as Adam, but there's still record of them both in history.

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[Justin Case]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

Maybe he did, Maybe he didn't. We can't be certain of that, same as Jesus, maybe he existed, maybe he didn't.

The things is that there's record of it, whether it's truth or lie is a different story.
Arohanui utopia

Well, considering the time period involved and the fact that there are over 7 1/2 billion people on this planet today, ask yourself a question: how was that all accomplished from 4000 BC?

Then add the "flood" that killed everyone on the planet, and now this world repopulation is the work of the Noah survivors. How could that happen?

Then too, if the Semites were caucasian ... where did the other races like Asians come from?

It's all delusional lies. Adam did not exist.

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by Justin Case

Adam did not exist.

What do you think our origin is if not Adam and Eve?, True, if they were African, we'd all be African but that's not the case, where did all the other races come from?. Just curious as to what you think.
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[utopiandreamchild]

I don't think he's greater than his education of enlightenment I think he only as great as his education imo.
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[Justin Case]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

What do you think our origin is if not Adam and Eve?, True, if they were African, we'd all be African but that's not the case, where did all the other races come from?. Just curious as to what you think.
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Everything I've looked into boils this down to a simple idea: IF we EVER knew anything, it's been lost over the last 15,000 rounded years, and especially over the last 5000 rounded years thanks to "religion."

There is an aspect of this "religion" picture that no one gets ... it was all non-empathic control (antisocial personality disorder). THEY lived in luxury (that WE built for them) and the common people just lived in the dirt. Add to this what the development of "government" has done to us - and there you go.

Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include:

Disregard for right and wrong.
Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others.
Being callous, cynical and disrespectful of others.
Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or personal pleasure.
Arrogance, a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated.
Recurring problems with the law, including criminal behavior.
Repeatedly violating the rights of others through intimidation and dishonesty.
Impulsiveness or failure to plan ahead.
Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, aggression or violence.
Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others.
Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behavior with no regard for the safety of self or others.
Poor or abusive relationships.
Failure to consider the negative consequences of behavior or learn from them.
Being consistently irresponsible and repeatedly failing to fulfill work or financial obligations.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20353928

All we have to work with is what researchers in this subject are trying to put together. There were quite a few different species of humans on this planet once upon a time ... oddly, we're all that's left. Gee - I wonder where they all went?

[Miss Hepburn]

I haven't read anything here yet.
I don't use the word 'enlightenment', myself, but I think I catch the drift...

This would be how I would look at it:
God realization as a goal, say, is what Jesus seemed to point at constantly...it was always about the Father...and to point us to: This place is not what it seems, there is a bigger picture or Reality at play...
let me show you some gravity defying things, for example, to wake you up ...enlighten you.

If Jesus was pointing the way, teaching us...He is very important!
But not more imp than what he was pointing TO.
He wanted us to realize and focus on the Goal - the Father !
So the Father is the focal point - of say, Enlightenment.

And saying this is why I was banned from a very active Christian site, where even today per posts-
I still have the most ''likes'' there. Whoa, to say Our Father was more imp than Jesus -big, no-no.