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Old 31-12-2020, 05:18 PM
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https://deconstructingyourself.com/nonduality

Nonduality is the experience of intimacy with all things; a sense of connection to and identity with the entire universe. In this experience, the sense of being a witness or seer of things vanishes completely, and instead you feel yourself to be whatever thing you are beholding. You don’t see the mountain, you are the mountain. You don’t hear a bird, you are birdsong.
Omg, I love this too!


In Patanjili's system that's Samadhi. When concentration is so absorbed in the object of attending subject and object become one. I suppose a less intense experience and one we can all relate to is being totally absorbed in something. Listening to a song, playing an instrument or sport, etc... It's the flow state.

Here's a fun way I like to experience it. Get on the Northway or even better yet NYS Route 73 going through Keene Valley on the way to Lake Placid. I'll crank up some Zeppelin, Rush or Floyd and I'll be zipping along the road and singing my lungs out, totally absorbed in song, truck, road and scenery. I've had people pass me on the Northway whilst doing my best to belt out the high notes of Robert Plant and Geddy Lee. I get some interesting looks. LOL!

This is an interesting practice to cultivate that state of being. https://deconstructingyourself.com/n...awareness.html
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Old 31-12-2020, 05:35 PM
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"When you can understand that the “real” world and the “dream” world ......

Once we become aware of the non-existence of this separation, we can bring ourselves to the truth of eternal unity, or oneness".
I just realized you have quote marks ...who said this?
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Old 01-01-2021, 04:12 AM
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"When you can understand that the “real” world and the “dream” world are all but one, you will be able to move through both worlds simultaneously.

This process is a journey, and the journey may not be an easy one.

...once you can train your subconscious mind to not differentiate between these two states of consciousness, you will begin to transform your mind from your current state of duality to non-duality.

Duality is the product of the mind, where the mind believes we are separate, that there exists a left and right, light and darkness, love and hate, peace and war, but actually, duality is an illusion of the subconscious mind.

Once we become aware of the non-existence of this separation, we can bring ourselves to the truth of eternal unity, or oneness".

The process is not a journey. There is no one there to take the journey . That's the the fundamental misperception. Its right here now. Always, here. Only the ego has a path or journey. Its very existence in the experience of conceptual time and space depends on its very survival. It may sound romantic and really spiritual to think of a "path" but the truth is the ego never survives that shift as anything authentic or primary . The journey is all for the ego character only.

Your subconscious mind, which is simply the perpetual and unconscious thinking process we know as everyday consciousness, can not be trained "out" of its dillussion... it can only rearrange or replace its neverending moving parts upon an under current of continuous expansion and contraction.

Duality is not only a product of the mind but altogether duality itself. Observer and observed and seer and seen solidify that first perspective necessary to facilitate a fundamental separation. Duality is born in that first perception. Our own individual stories fill in in the gaps later. An objective view does nothing to change the subjective perspective, except perhaps for an instantaneous glance which is quickly added to further the arsenal of our own spiritual story . The shift is never triggered by an externalized event or practice. It always within. Cultivating and/or determining something going on as "separateness being oneness all along" is another conceptual determination and belief.. Realization is does not evolve by way of a fragmented process of existence, it can only leave a solid perspective even more enchanted by an illusionary sense of progress. The mind and the identity it has created for you, simply keeps itself in the picture by an unrelenting and unconscious grasping to solidify more of itself. Thats ALWAYS happening. Your physical universe is always solidified only moments before you can see that there is actually nothing there to begin with. It is that conceptual universe that goes hand and hand with your sense of separation, individuality and ultimate identity. Its not the image on the screen that must be manipulated, it's the projector itself which collapses first.
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Old 01-01-2021, 06:16 AM
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The process is not a journey. There is no one there to take the journey . That's the the fundamental misperception. Its right here now. Always, here. Only the ego has a path or journey. Its very existence in the experience of conceptual time and space depends on its very survival. It may sound romantic and really spiritual to think of a "path" but the truth is the ego never survives that shift as anything authentic or primary . The journey is all for the ego character only.

Your subconscious mind, which is simply the perpetual and unconscious thinking process we know as everyday consciousness, can not be trained "out" of its dillussion... it can only rearrange or replace its neverending moving parts upon an under current of continuous expansion and contraction.

Duality is not only a product of the mind but altogether duality itself. Observer and observed and seer and seen solidify that first perspective necessary to facilitate a fundamental separation. Duality is born in that first perception. Our own individual stories fill in in the gaps later. An objective view does nothing to change the subjective perspective, except perhaps for an instantaneous glance which is quickly added to further the arsenal of our own spiritual story . The shift is never triggered by an externalized event or practice. It always within. Cultivating and/or determining something going on as "separateness being oneness all along" is another conceptual determination and belief.. Realization is does not evolve by way of a fragmented process of existence, it can only leave a solid perspective even more enchanted by an illusionary sense of progress. The mind and the identity it has created for you, simply keeps itself in the picture by an unrelenting and unconscious grasping to solidify more of itself. Thats ALWAYS happening. Your physical universe is always solidified only moments before you can see that there is actually nothing there to begin with. It is that conceptual universe that goes hand and hand with your sense of separation, individuality and ultimate identity. Its not the image on the screen that must be manipulated, it's the projector itself which collapses first.

I'm sure alot of awakened souls will find it to be a very pertinent quote.
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Old 01-01-2021, 06:22 AM
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Whatever you may do, you will not be able to ACHIEVE Non-duality.
It can only happen if the Mind-body Apparatus that you think , you are, is destined for it. Period.
Namaskar

It appears people already are achieving it.
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:25 AM
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There is no path, but only a fool doesn't follow it - Unknown https://youtu.be/Ku8cCrdh4Ic

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There is no path, but only a fool doesn't follow it - Unknown
Hahahahahahahahah
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"When you can understand that the “real” world and the “dream” world ......

Once we become aware of the non-existence of this separation, we can bring ourselves to the truth of eternal unity, or oneness".



I just realized you have quote marks ...who said this?
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 01-01-2021, 05:34 PM
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Hahahahahahahahah

It's a great quote, isn't it?

I came across that video in this blog: https://liveanddare.com/neo-advaita/6/

2.2. Ripening the mind

Both in traditional Advaita as well for modern sages, the nondual realization requires a ripe mind, also called a sattvic mind. This is a mind devoid of craving, ignorance, restlessness, fear, and other mental poisons. This type of mind is very rare, and not to be expected.

Therefore, spiritual practice is needed to prepare the ground for the final realization.
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Old 01-01-2021, 09:06 PM
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I am afraid horribly flawed. Understanding and realizing nonduality is not about a process of training the subconscious mind. That is just self-brainwashing and additional self-hypnotization.


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"When you can understand that the “real” world and the “dream” world are all but one, you will be able to move through both worlds simultaneously.

This process is a journey, and the journey may not be an easy one.

...once you can train your subconscious mind to not differentiate between these two states of consciousness, you will begin to transform your mind from your current state of duality to non-duality.

Duality is the product of the mind, where the mind believes we are separate, that there exists a left and right, light and darkness, love and hate, peace and war, but actually, duality is an illusion of the subconscious mind.

Once we become aware of the non-existence of this separation, we can bring ourselves to the truth of eternal unity, or oneness".
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