On Conception and Abortions --- From A Spiritist Perspective

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by asearcher

I hope nobody minds this but i have to return to my question about stress and pregnancy. I experience a miscarriage after a break up and it was stressful for me, but it was before the 3 month, closing in on that, so i did not then see a connection between stress and miscarriage.

then if I am going to jump forward here - i was visiting a relative while being pregnant in a hospital and I found this stressful and after i got premature labors and had to be in hospital myself and thankfully it slowed down.

another time it was incredibly stressful at work and again I was having premature labors so I had to go through the same thing. It could have been coincidental but I still see a connection.

Same thing with a woman who stresses because she really wants to become pregnant and it is not working. No good, that stress...

I feel your pain.

But you really do know the answer to your question. Stress can cause such problems. After writing that, I hope you come to turns with this and realize we are all made a little different. What affects one may not necessarily affect another.

I am short on words. I wish I could say more.

Realize you are not alone. This thread has been very beneficial and I hope it does bring about some closures. You deserve at least that.

Originally Posted by BigJohn

I feel your pain.

But you really do know the answer to your question. Stress can cause such problems. After writing that, I hope you come to turns with this and realize we are all made a little different. What affects one may not necessarily affect another.

I am short on words. I wish I could say more.

Realize you are not alone. This thread has been very beneficial and I hope it does bring about some closures. You deserve at least that.

thank you very much BigJohn, this was really good of you. and i could not agree with you more about the importance of this thread too :)

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by asearcher

thank you very much BigJohn, this was really good of you. and i could not agree with you more about the importance of this thread too :)

I wish I could say more..... keep in touch.

The emotion between mother and child is so strong that not even the Lord God above in all his Glory can break or come between. In whatever circumstance, that bond is set in stone. And trust me I know. All my little babies that did not survive... And to all the other little babies that did not survive.. know you were all loved equally. A mummy can never stop loving her babies.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Elfin

The emotion between mother and child is so strong that not even the Lord God above in all his Glory can break or come between. In whatever circumstance, that bond is set in stone. And trust me I know. All my little babies that did not survive... And to all the other little babies that did not survive.. know you were all loved equally. A mummy can never stop loving her babies.

I can feel your love.............
........... and I can feel your pain.


I wish I had a miracle wand
that could reverse things.........
but I don't have one.


Remember, we experience pain
and those on the other side watch,
hoping we can work out lessons, etc.

Maybe what we have no learn is,
those on the other side
do not experience pain: only we do.


I can not say any more,
please except my hug.......

Originally Posted by BigJohn

I can feel your love.............
........... and I can feel your pain.


I wish I had a miracle wand
that could reverse things.........
but I don't have one.


Remember, we experience pain
and those on the other side watch,
hoping we can work out lessons, etc.

Maybe what we have no learn is,
those on the other side
do not experience pain: only we do.


I can not say any more,
please except my hug.......

Thank you sweet John X

Originally Posted by hazada guess

Abortion is a controversial subject for me,but this is what I believe,people may disagree but its just my thinking.
From a souls point of view,some don't join the foetus until just before birth and indeed some enter the body after birth.(Some babies are born with no life in their eyes,that comes later when the soul has joined).Some souls just like being in the womb and they know that they are going to be aborted,souls can join the foetus at any time.
Abortion can be a lesson for the mother to learn,(Preplanned),but whatever happens I think that the mother can rest assured that the soul of the baby will live on whatever happens and could join another body when the time is right.

...... Thank you ..... I know for me it was a lesson to do with past life, connected to my father..... ( As a woman , I would like to say that forced abortion is the most traumatic experience she can go through.... The sense of guilt never resides...)...... But I appreciate your way of thinking.... Thank you...

[bobjob]

Whatever the philosophical considerations, only the woman endures the trauma of the experience.

[Shinsoo]

If all life is precious, and people should have free will over their bodies, then animals should as well. One should stop the spaying and neutering of sentient beings.

Don't give me that bullpucky that animals don't know any better. I know now, they do. We spay and neuter them because we think "it's what's best for them" But if you look at it closely, it's more for human comfort than anything else. Nobody wants a lawn smelling like cat urine and nobody wants to hear the yowling of a female animal in heat. Nor do we want a world full of rampant animal breeding that would infringe on our way of life.

If you're going to throw stuff that all life is precious, value animals' lives too.

Otherwise you're in the vein of hypocrisy.

I'm not saying we shouldn't value unborn human lives, but rather to stop elevating them above animals and we should be consistent.

Oh, and God is totally into quantum eugenics so he's in no place to judge. I experienced this first hand.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Trinitydown

If all life is precious, and people should have free will over their bodies, then animals should as well. One should stop t.....................alue animals' lives too.

Otherwise you're in the vein of hypocrisy.

I'm not saying we shouldn't value unborn human lives, but rather to stop elevating them above animals and we should be consistent.

Oh, and God is totally into quantum eugenics so he's in no place to judge. I experienced this first hand.

Can you help here please? Whose posting have you responded to?