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Old 23-02-2021, 12:09 PM
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So nice to read you all here,

Could ambrosia be that substance that the spiritual alchemist use to transform the lead that we are into Gold, the Philosophical Egg (Hirayangarbha, the golden womb or golden egg)?

In the picture of Soma churning of the Ocean:


I see the pillar in the centre as the tip of Sushumna near the third eye opening on the crown. The gods on both side of the pillar puling on the serpent, as the horizontal path running feels there on third eye level, churning the Sushumna so that below the Abyss Sea, separating the Supenals from Creation, starts to flow the Soma into Creation.

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Yes, this is very much a depiction of the Kundalini in action as it churns out the nectar. Some depictions show three demons (Asuras) on one end and three gods (devas) on the other, with Vishnu in the middle, sitting on top of a stone.

I think this might be shorthand for the chakras, with the heart chakra being in the middle, that is where Vishnu, symbolised by the hexagram, is supposed to reside, with the gods representing the top three and the demons the lower three chakras. The heart is the centre of it all, even though the secretion is in the throat, but the actual work of energetic churning, transmuting mundane, physical matter into the divine nectar, is done in the heart.

The stone on which Vishnu sits may be shorthand for the Philosopher's Stone, which is supposed to bestow immortality on the spiritual seeker, as does the holy grail. These are connected, it's just that the true meaning behind these symbols has been lost over the centuries, the underlying reality behind them is the same though.
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Old 23-02-2021, 12:12 PM
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Yes, nice thread. May we all pause and focus within!
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Old 23-02-2021, 10:20 PM
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Hello Miss Hepburn,

How long do you want us to pause in silence?

I believe that all who posted here can do it for Eternity. Yet, I would like to answer NoOne post. If you allow us to do so.

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Old 24-02-2021, 02:16 AM
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runnings Soma truck. Spreading Bliss and Silence, bring your own straw.LOL
I see, most people thought you were transporting durable goods for trade
but truly your spreading Bliss and Silence everywhere you travel.
Nice

i hope your right my friend. i like the idea we can be doing something by not doing something. what do we know? i don't know? thankfully i think it knows!
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Old 24-02-2021, 02:39 AM
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Of course we each may have to different measure experienced what we call the soma nectar, manifesting bliss electricity within. Earlier on, I used to attempt to correlate the imbibed is-ness with the scriptures, particularly Kashmir Shaiva or Tantra Agamas, which have elaborated on the energy path in detail. However, the activity of defining itself became an impediment as far as my journey is concerned. So, for a while now, I have rested all analysis, being paralysis and simply allow, in as much as able, for the awakening to blossom, petal by petal.

Earlier on, I felt the Bindu point as the possible source of soma, later the Sahasrara. Now, I find that the entire Sushumna is aflame, with each node, so to speak, being self contained as a miniature Hirayangarbha, if you will, self existent and in no way limited by itís in-form geometric location.

The nectar dropping in the Anahata ... yes, with the heart centre expanding spatially sideways, fusing male and female polarities within its boundless domain.

As of now, what I can share is that a sublime fragrance arises from within, vivifying the bliss current, purring within in renewal continual.

Now, is this the same as what others feel? Maybe yes, maybe no. There is no one here bisecting. Possibly, all five senses ... inner polarities, that is, could one day manifest in a manner cognisable like a living rainbow within

for the most part for me it feels like im made out of liquid and the liquid me is mixing with the physical me which excites the nervous system into joy throughout the body.

i feel as if i have some control in that putting attention on it expands it. the same can be said about putting no attention on it. its a strange thing with many contradictions. one thing i do know is where it hasn't cleared through as much. if i put to much attention on my third eye i can get pains from pushing it through the cells of my body. its always clearing by its own power and intelligence. sometimes it seems best for me to stay out of its way.
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Old 24-02-2021, 02:42 AM
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Nice topic.

I do not experience this as often as I used to, but it is always a glorious experience.

The Honey does seem to be secreted by the upper back part of the palate, in the throat. At first it is bitter, but then it becomes sweet and intoxicating.

It has many levels, so we give it different names, but for sure there is a physical aspect, some sort of hormonal secretion (plus DMT) and then there is an energetic, spiritual and even divine level, each more subtle than the previous one.

it has been my experience that it comes and goes like dates. then at some point it stops leaving and just stays.
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Old 24-02-2021, 07:36 AM
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for the most part for me it feels like im made out of liquid and the liquid me is mixing with the physical me which excites the nervous system into joy throughout the body.

i feel as if i have some control in that putting attention on it expands it. the same can be said about putting no attention on it. its a strange thing with many contradictions. one thing i do know is where it hasn't cleared through as much. if i put to much attention on my third eye i can get pains from pushing it through the cells of my body. its always clearing by its own power and intelligence. sometimes it seems best for me to stay out of its way.

If I were to attempt to classify the blends or flavours of the energy experience, I’d say that initially it was something like magnetic heat, rising to the point of causing disconcertment, in as fear that form may not be able to withstand the energy ... don’t want to end up in the loony bin! There was a clear telepathic message reassuring that there is no cause to worry ... but well, I wanted the energy to taper off and so it was. I then regretted it because it took several months before the next ‘waves’ recommenced.

Subsequently, several things happened sequentially ... in a nutshell energy rise from root to crown in a swoosh, a willingness to die so as to melt into the current to pass through an orifice in the crown, oneness experiences beyond and within form, followed by a cosmic egg (Hirayangarbha) splitting into two in the head region, physically feeling male and female forms descending into the heart culminating in union, resulting in an explosion of bliss. The bliss current stabilised in the central channel, becoming a permanent embodiment of being.

I recognise that this is at variance with say, what Gopi Krishna had depicted. It is somewhat in sync with Igor Kufayev’s elaboration in his video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYZ64RgjRo

Although I don’t attempt anymore to rationalise, I did chance to stumble upon this happening in Pratyabhijnahrydayam by Jaidev Singh

Leaving aside for the moment, visions of light and conversations with God, the essential takeaway for me has been simply this: an aspect allowing is all that it takes through constant mindfulness where even in our dreams our response to images manifest is tranquil. Then of course, what we call waking being another dream ... detached nonchalance (emptiness) whilst vibrantly present (fullness) becomes the state of being.

I no longer look at this or that chakra, for the very act of doing so is an interference. Perhaps the seeking as unseeking, corresponding to my handle, is the way best for me!

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Old 24-02-2021, 08:46 AM
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This description of what soma / amrita is and what it does is spot-on, It's best to quote it in full here:

https://www.yogateket.com/blog/amrita-our-true-identity-and-nectar-of-immortality#:~:text=The%20legend%20says%20that%20S oma,produced%20by%20the%20body%20itself.

Amrita is a Sanskrit term with two translations. One of them being immortal/immortality and the other one being nectar. It is said that Amrita is related to the Greek word ambrosia which also translates into nectar. In Sanskrit, the word Amrita carries two very different meanings within the word itself. But one could argue that the two different purposes still are connected since both of them are referring to an elevated state of self-awareness. A self-awareness to strive for, connecting you to the universe. This high level of self-awareness is said to be reached through online yoga practice and meditation.


One of the meanings behind Amrita is that it is another name for the deathless spirit, Atman. Atman is the transcendental self, or spirit, which is eternal and superconscious. Atman is said to be our one true nature or identity and our most inner self. In Hindu, Atman is said to be the individual soul and the innermost deep part of all living things. The human body itself can age, die and wither but the Atman will continue to live always moving forward from one body to the next, continue to evolve until it reaches Brahman. Each person’s Atman I said to be a part of the universal Brahman which is believed to be the ultimate Reality. When practicing yoga and meditation, you can increase self-awareness and self-knowledge which can lead to the revelation of the inner Self.


According to Hindu, the word Amrita was used to describe a drink known as soma. The legend says that Soma was given to the gods, making them immortal. The other meaning of Amrita refers to the nectar of immortality that it is said to flow through our pituitary gland into the back of the throat during the deeper stages of meditation, produced by the body itself. When you reach a state in meditation where your Amrita flows, it is said that you have achieved to reach a higher state of self-awareness and a deep sense of consciousness. Reaching Amrita it is said to turn our bodies into the divine body, Divya-deha, the final destination turning us into a perfect being Siddha.


“Amrita, the liquid of immortality is like nectar… It exudes from the Chandra center in the center of the head, deep behind the eyebrows.” “Who swallows this clear liquor dripping from the brain into the heart and obtained by means of meditation, becomes free from disease and tender in the body like the stalk of a lotus, and will live a very long life.” - Hatha Yoga Pradipika
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Glad you brought up the Pituitary gland.

The brown part of the brain system in the picture bellow, is to me the top of the pillar coming out of the Sea of Binah in the picture I posted before.

The demons (Asuras) on one end would be Binah (Saturn often associate in history to Satan) and gods (devas) on the other sides Chokmak.

But all this is dissection , nothing like feeling it while living.

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Old 24-02-2021, 11:24 AM
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Well, I must say, this whole "fountain of immortality" thing seems like a myth to me, I have been drinking soma, on and off, for a few years and it certainly had no noticeable physical effect, like increased youth or vitality. If anything, I've had my share of health issues and my aging hasn't slowed down at all.

But, there is a subtle transformation, that I cannot deny, it is the creation of a light-body, like what the gods have, as mentioned in the article above. That is in fact real and a very noticeable effect of the transformation that Soma engenders.
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