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23-03-2022, 10:40 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Thanks Greenslade. Yes, I think that’s an option. Just not totally sure. But yes it’s something I hear more often
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23-03-2022, 08:40 PM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I tend to view karma rather objectively also, from that perspective, it's neutral. Some experiences from sewing seeds of desire for me are pleasant and some are uncomfortable.
I choose my own morals and personal ethics independently to karma and each of those individual decisions have perceived benefits and also things which I perceive and experience as uncomfortable.
In every action, there is choice and in every action, there is an outcome which opens up even more choices.
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24-03-2022, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CosmicWonder
Thanks Greenslade. Yes, I think that’s an option. Just not totally sure. But yes it’s something I hear more often
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Your reality is defined by your beliefs, your beliefs are defined by your perceptions and your perceptions are defined by your definitions. You make the choice to define it in your reality as negative and in your reality negative it is.
It's really that simple.
You could just as easily define it as something to gain from. Not "Oh, such a negative experience" but "Hey, I can learn something here." Reflections and echoes. So try it sometime, but ask yourself "What are the reasons?" Specifically that question, because that's introspection.
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25-03-2022, 09:17 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Hii RedEmbers,
Yes I agree. Lots of paths to take that eventually define us.
Greenslade, you’re not wrong. But you’re, in my personal case, not right either. Yes I can change the rules, but it’s not like that. And there’s consequences to change the rules (because it means the mechanics will be different from then on). I sometimed change the rules, but it isn’t by changing believes. I have to go through a lot of stuff to fulfill the wish of a change of rules. And that too isn’t defined by believe. Believes are more a way to make a solid request for me. I have modelled it often and tried to even mechanically (almost mathematically) simulate such stuff. I am not a mind that then decides on something to believe. Rather I still take my turns in discussing it with myself. And I came to sometimes believe in one model, another time in another. Sometimes I decide to fine tune it. Usually it gets fine tuned in discussion. It’s fine if you believe something else. I sometimes take turns with myself in arguments about how things work. So I did after I read your post.
Much kindness,
CW
PS: it’s nice to hear something else again, something similar to what I’ve heard before. But I always get quite aggravated when hearing things I’ve dismissed before. I think that might be a personality flaw of mine. But it’s me, so I just hide it as much as I deem necessary. Anyway, thanks for elaborating
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25-03-2022, 10:44 AM
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Guide
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: U.K
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Karma is universal causality playing out i.e. the consequences of our thoughts and actions. We reap what we sow. Although I can't claim to clearly see the complex dynamics involved (since it's a mix of destiny which is influenced by our mindset) I have found it greatly beneficial to cultivate a positive mindset....looking for the silver lining. That to which we give energy to grows; that works both ways i.e. negativity (maybe loss of trust in self) can snowball.
I would suggest being mindful of negative self-talk/mind chatter and balance it with acknowledging your virtues etc and to watch the quality of your interactions with others.
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It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
(Henry David Thoreau)
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25-03-2022, 10:53 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Hi ameliorate,
Yes can agree to that mostly. I do also see the cause and effect thing. However I usually just call that cause and effect, and see it as common sense. The thing with karma is that there are a lot of definitions to it. I agree that negative self-talk is detrimental. Usually thinking positively is very healthy.
Much kindness,
CW
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25-03-2022, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicWonder
And there’s consequences to change the rules
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Here's a question that I've yet to have answered. What makes positive positive and what makes negative negative?
There are consequences in holding your belief of karma.
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25-03-2022, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CosmicWonder
I agree that negative self-talk is detrimental.
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If you're going to go down this road, in the Eightfold Path Right Thinking leads to Right Understanding, which is the basis for Right Thinking.
Use the word 'constructive' instead of 'positive'.
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25-03-2022, 01:25 PM
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Master
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Hii Greenslade,
Positive and negative is in my personal life mostly something I discover due to life experience. Usually a bad experience results in naming it negative, while a healthy and constructive event leads to positive
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25-03-2022, 03:25 PM
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Master
Join Date: May 2021
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Positive thoughts, positive deeds. Of course, you can give healings. Send the healing to the person with the intention that it is given freely and can be accepted or not as the person desires. Karma is simply getting back the energy you give out. Like attracts like, so to speak.
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