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24-07-2021, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice
He "disrobed". I would see him as far from "orthodoxy".
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Agree. He's has some interesting ideas  |
24-07-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Agree. He's has some interesting ideas |
Given the treacherous sea of language I thought he might get some stick for "disrobing"...  |
24-07-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice
Given the treacherous sea of language I thought he might get some stick for "disrobing"... |
I see what you mean  but who needs a robe to practise Buddhism |
24-07-2021, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice
I would see him as far from "orthodoxy."
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I see him the opposite. But then I am not defining orthodoxy as you are. I also see the orthodoxy of self defined authority. Fixed authoritative views. Orthodox is from the Greek orthodoxos, meaning “of the right opinion” and many ego's can claim to have it. My orthodoxy verses theirs in other words. |
24-07-2021, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice
He "disrobed".
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Well he wanted to marry a nun he met so he had no choice. Buddhist monks and nuns are expected to be celibate. Not married. |
25-07-2021, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
Well he wanted to marry a nun he met so he had no choice. Buddhist monks and nuns are expected to be celibate. Not married.
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We westerners just do not understand the eastern committment to a vow.
In America, we would admit to a transgression, say sorry, and get a hug of forgiveness. In Japan, you chop off your little finger to atone for your selfish indiscretion that had harmed others.
There is no disrobing for a monk who wants to sleep with a nun. It's harakiri: ritual suicide by disembowelment with a sword.
We just do not understand the meaning of shame. Guilt? Forget meditation to cast it away. Therapy will help you get rid of it.
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25-07-2021, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
Well he wanted to marry a nun he met so he had no choice. Buddhist monks and nuns are expected to be celibate. Not married.
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Not necessarily true.
Just think of Yaśodharā, who got wedded to her cousin.
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25-07-2021, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Not necessarily true.
Just think of Yaśodharā, who got wedded to her cousin.
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That was a folk story, BigJohn. In real life, pumpkins don't become coaches, mice into horses, and the rats into grooms and footmen. |
25-07-2021, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ayar415
That was a folk story, BigJohn. In real life, pumpkins don't become coaches, mice into horses, and the rats into grooms and footmen.
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Was Yaśodharā's husband also a folk story?
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25-07-2021, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AbodhiSky
Buddhist monks and nuns are expected to be celibate. Not married.
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Not all Schools, some of The Buddha's Disciples are said to have been married. |
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