About "Spiritual Helpers"

[SpiritualFreedom]

Just because a spiritual being try to teach you something...

That doesn't mean it's true & you must follow orders blindly and stupidly. That spiritual may be completely wrong 100% because he/she is following an old belief system. So he/she doesn't truly know what it's talking about because of his/her own experience.

Always have an open mind, but be highly sceptical about everyone. That's the right strategy to navigate on any reality, and any world.

Belief Systems and Boxes are everywhere.

Keep always the freedom & control of your consciousness.

KNOWING is completely different than Believing.

When you KNOW something, is because you have done it, test it lots of times - But so many times other people try to teach stuff that they haven't done it themselves, and it can really ruin your life following theory that doesn't match reality.

I don't want to believe some rubbish theory.

I prefer to KNOW it because I can do it over & over again. That's why I love OBE's as my spiritual practice. Rather than the rubbish of man-made religious nooks, philosophies, theories and stuff like that to limit myself

How so many "expert priest" can do OBE's?

I will tell you: ZERO!

It's that sad that a priest can't do an OBE

[ShineLikeStars]

You post a lot of good advice, Spiritual Freedom. Like, it's good for me to look at how & talk & think & challenge myself to change if I'm doing "quitter's talk"> And success=80% strategy-20% action.

[SpiritualFreedom]

Originally Posted by ShineLikeStars

You post a lot of good advice, Spiritual Freedom. Like, it's good for me to look at how & talk & think & challenge myself to change if I'm doing "quitter's talk"> And success=80% strategy-20% action.

Thanks I appreciate that.

At the beginning of this OBE adventure I was confused and fearful as hell, and I want to help people quit this mental pain & doubts as much as possible.

The golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

That's my atittude that I want to bring into this forum

Straight & Direct what I have experienced from my OBE's, without any religious or belief systems junk into it, I think it's the right way to quit the confusion

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom

Thanks I appreciate that.

At the beginning of this OBE adventure I was confused and fearful as hell, and I want to help people quit this mental pain & doubts as much as possible.

The golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

That's my atittude that I want to bring into this forum

Straight & Direct what I have experienced from my OBE's, without any religious or belief systems junk into it, I think it's the right way to quit the confusion

Why were you fearful?

My OBEs just happened and there was no religion, rituals, etc. attached to them.

[lomax]

Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom

Just because a spiritual being try to teach you something...

That doesn't mean it's true & you must follow orders blindly and stupidly. That spiritual may be completely wrong 100% because he/she is following an old belief system. So he/she doesn't truly know what it's talking about because of his/her own experience.

Always have an open mind, but be highly sceptical about everyone. That's the right strategy to navigate on any reality, and any world.

Belief Systems and Boxes are everywhere.

Keep always the freedom & control of your consciousness.

KNOWING is completely different than Believing.

When you KNOW something, is because you have done it, test it lots of times - But so many times other people try to teach stuff that they haven't done it themselves, and it can really ruin your life following theory that doesn't match reality.

I don't want to believe some rubbish theory.

I prefer to KNOW it because I can do it over & over again. That's why I love OBE's as my spiritual practice. Rather than the rubbish of man-made religious nooks, philosophies, theories and stuff like that to limit myself

How so many "expert priest" can do OBE's?

I will tell you: ZERO!

It's that sad that a priest can't do an OBE

good post...

Originally Posted by SpiritualFreedom

How so many "expert priest" can do OBE's?

I will tell you: ZERO!

It's that sad that a priest can't do an OBE

I highly doubt you are accurate with your ZERO claim.
Though I don't really know what a "expert priest" is.(Maybe this is a small
subset of Priest's and you have analyzed all of them.)
But ZERO is a pretty improbable number.

What ImthatIm said

[SienJoe]

Good advice. The main thing is to be able to distinguish the right direction for development)

[MysticRose]

What is an OBE?

[BlueElephant]

OBE = Out of Body Experience, (**I think now know as Out of Body Exploration) but is also a path to out of Body Travel to attain truth. Like any genuine path it takes time to learn and apply, etc. to travel on.