😃 WHAT ISN'T EGO 😃

[Unseeking Seeker]

I guess it’s the weary walk back defining what the word ego means to different people. I take it as the feeling or belief of separateness from the source inducing doership oriented towards well being of the limited entity -mind body.

Thread topic: So what is not ego?

Well, as of my understanding and experience, there are three states we may experience : separateness, interconnectedness & oneness.

Separateness is where we are most of the time, senses externalised.

Interconnectedness is during meditation where we may expand to become one with universal consciousness. This occurs even in what is termed as the oneness experience or even both void & manifestation.

Oneness is during samadhi. We vaporise to simply become the essence of the divine attribute as may be ordained, be it bliss or awareness or wisdom or power or will/ creativity. Here, since we are not, no separate entity remains who may actuate any action ... action being a movement in space & time and nothing remains in samadhi save the singularity. It is one without any second. Hence beyond delineation.

So what is not ego? Obviously, oneness state is. Also, interconnectedness. There, although we exist as a separate identity, we are in a state of surrender, in alignment with God consciousness. We are no longer a doer with a narrow agenda.

Or, if we want to simplify further we may say that ego is not when we are in resonation with the singular divine vibration. Love.

https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...137175&page=19

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Perhaps a search for questions that bring a deeper understanding would be more fruitful, but that takes delving into ourselves and for some that's a really scary place. If "everything comes from Spirit" yet the ego is not Spiritual? One of the questions I have yet to find an answer for is what are the reasons supposedly Spiritual people shun anything psychological yet practice psychoanalysis - which is what happens in the ego discussion - and completely ignore the ancient Spiritual wisdom that the Jungian ego is derived from? What are the reasons Spiritual people put so much store on the wisdom and understanding of the ancients that they didn't differentiate between Spirituality/philosophy and what is known today as psychology, yet differentiate between what is labelled as Spiritual and everything else?

Jyotir's post in this thread (and others) answers it precisely.

Ego is of the psyche (lower, limited mind); thus by nature and definition, it will always be (ultimately) unhappy, even if and as it has moments of happiness. Buddhism calls this the condition of "Dukkha".

The misconception that ego-lessness means a devoid human with no cognition and individuality is a myth; one perpeutated by a lack of comprehension and understanding of what true spiritual is. Mostly evidenced by people who are unwilling to take the advice of the Masters.

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“The Spirit gives life; the [ego] counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life”.

– John 6:63.

”Those who live according to the [EGO] have their minds set on what the [EGO] desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind governed by the [EGO] is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. The mind governed by the [EGO] is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those who are in the realm of the [EGO] cannot please God.”

– Romans 8:5-8

"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me" (Galatians 2:20)

Originally Posted by Altair

*Ego* is sense of self, an identity, being able to relate to others as others, that which makes you 'human' and allows you to function.
Therefore, ''what isn't ego'' is everything outside of that, which is 99,99xbiggest number% of existence.
Total bulls-eye right there, Greenslade.

Right back atcha, Altair. Guess that's too much understanding for some.

The Ego is not Energy. If you allow the Energy to eat you, you will be without ego.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

EXCERPT post #22 So what is not ego? Obviously, oneness state is. Also, interconnectedness. There, although we exist as a separate identity, we are in a state of surrender, in alignment with God consciousness.

Can you expand your thought?

Sorry, I could only copy a little bit of your excellent post.

[Miss Hepburn]

When I feel icky I know that's ego. Spirit, (I say Holy Spirit), feels
wonderful and good and pure and innocent and kind and benevolent.
If it's not that it's ego ---and I don't say 'my' ego...it's just ego to me.
Is that according to Jung -probably not, I don't care.

[green1]

Great question John!

For me, understanding, forgiveness, friendship are not ego.

[ayar415]

Generally, ego is defined as the view that a person has of himself, a sense of personal identity.

BigJohn's question was asked 10 months ago to get replies. What kind of fisherman would set his trap and not return to it for months and months to check on his catch?

Anyway, let's examine his bait: "What ego is not."

If ego is an impression of oneself or a sense of self identity, then what "ego is not" can be anything other than an impression of oneself.

I know what BigJohn is trying to catch but he is using the wrong bait which is somewhat unintelligible. To catch shrimp, cat food is the bait. To catch minnows, use a live minnow to attract more minnows into the trap.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by green1

Great question John!

For me, understanding, forgiveness, friendship are not ego.

Nice comment.

I agree with your assessment.