Satya Sai Baba

[Redchic12]

Yep good point Miss H. Some people do seem to need that kinda thing.
Definitely not for me tho.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Honza

... They passed the ring to Baba and with a shake of his hand the gem stones were back in the ring again.
... Her daughter has a picture on her wall and vibhuti is literally pouring from it onto the floor.

I believe you, thank you.
I have heard stories from people too, with contact with him.
He inspired people...that's really all I care about him.

[Redchic12]

Honza. So this vibbutti that’s pouring out of the picture, what’s that all about. I mean what are you supposed to do with that stuff and what does that mean exactly?

Thanks

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Redchic12

Honza. So this vibbutti that’s pouring out of the picture, what’s that all about. I mean what are you supposed to do with that stuff and what does that mean exactly?

I guess it means that you are recognised by him and that he is treating you to a miracle. Life is pretty mundane. For a picture on your wall to suddenly start creating holy ash is exceptional. It is unexplainable. A little nod from the divine. That is my take on it.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Altair

He used tricks.

Occams razor says the simple explanation is the most likely one (magic tricks). Manifesting trinkets out of thin air is a bit of a stretch (unlikely). From my perspective he's not a trustworthy guy and it looks like a duck to me.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Honza

He manifested a ring for them with 9 different types of gem stones in it. the stones fell out. They passed the ring to Baba and with a shake of his hand the gem stones were back in the ring again. vibhuti is literally pouring from it onto the floor.

It's possible that he has several of the same ring and did the ol' swicheroo. The ash thing is anecdotal so the likelihood of it being untrue is considerable. I don't blame people for wanting to believe he's a miracle maker, but from what I've seen on video, trickery is also a plausible explanation. IOW, it's 'possible' he's performs miracles, but there is also a mundane explanation.

Since there is video evidence of him doing tricks, at least some of his supposed miracles were faked and Ethical questionability is thereby established.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

And you know what? Seems as if no matter what one of them does ---someone is out there to mock them and complain.

That is probably true, but there's such a thing as a valid complaint and there's video evidence of trickery. Maybe it doesn't matter that he misled people, but to me, being a holy man doesn't absolve him from moral conduct.

[Unseeking Seeker]

I recall that when I was in college, a small group of us would sometimes sit in someone’s home, where there was a Sai Baba picture and we would generally chant or simply listen to a scripted prayerful melody. The atmosphere was charged with a surreal calm and yes, Vibhuti or sacred ash would ‘appear’ on the photograph of Sai Baba.

The rational mind seeks explanations but there was none offered. I know first hand of healing miracles performed by anonymous sages who have no interest in publicity. It is what it is. It hardly matters if we accept or reject. The omnipresent energy seeks no applause.

[Altair]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

And you know what? Seems as if no matter what one of them does ---someone is out there to mock them and complain.

If someone is known to use tricks whilst presenting him/her self as sincere (even holy) then knowledge of this will be valuable to anyone who wants to know the truth. That may be viewed as mocking or complaining if one's a believer but not if one wants to know or knows what's going on.

Originally Posted by Gem

Occams razor says the simple explanation is the most likely one (magic tricks).

Agreed.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

..sacred ash would ‘appear’ on the photograph of Sai Baba.

And I believe you and Honza. :)