The Flaming Sword

[DavidHenson]

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

Your belief.

What about it?

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

Some simply assume that their words are his. Presumption.

How so?

Not sure I understand what you are trying to get at. You have a word, let's say . . . the word god. It means anything or anyone that is attributed might greater than the one attributing it and or is venerated.

So, in Western cultures God is reference to Jehovah, in Middle Eastern cultures it is also Jehovah; Jewish, Christian, Muslim, though the latter uses the term Allah meaning the God. Then in Eastern cultures gods aren't usually referenced like that or is more traditionally thought of as spirits. Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism.

But if you take the vague and incomprehensible concept of deity you can apply it, in a sense, to "god." That makes the presumption of which you speak difficult to establish or recognize.

But then again, you can presume any words you use as someone else you quote (spiritual gurus, for example) with equal ineptitude so long as you yourself make the presumption that your audience is as inept as you or preferably nearly so.

In other words, my words, quoting that the soul, is, according to God's word, immortal isn't presumption because I can show where God's word says it quite clearly. If, on the other hand, someone a great deal more educated on the subject than I am disagrees with the soul as being immortal due to tradition it becomes a question of interpretation, misinterpretation, et cetera.

I wouldn't call that disagreement a presumption in the manner you seem to suggest.

[The Cobbler's Apprentice]

Originally Posted by DavidHenson

What about it?
How so?
Not sure I understand what you are trying to get at

I am simply addressing those who equate their own words with God's words........as in (what has been met with again and again on various forums) "you are not arguing with me, I'm only telling you what God has said" or alternatively - much the same - "you don't argue with me, you're arguing with God."

Hope that clarifies.

[Morpheus]

The wielder of the sword is called a Cherub. The same or similar to an Archangel.

In Ezekiel, I believe, Lucifer is called the covering Cherub.
Who... is responsible for this organic situation through, illusory time. Replete with it's past history of, "Evolution".

You may want to consider an alternate timeline from what the Lord originally initiated with Adam.
Who lived in a timeless situation, in "Paradise".

Originally Posted by Morpheus

The wielder of the sword is called a Cherub. The same or similar to an Archangel.

According to the scriptures, the Flaming Sword turned of its own accord and the cherubim were placed at the east of the garden of Eden.

The Cherubs are depicted as winged bulls, and the Milky Way is called the pathway of the bull.

The cherubs are the ancient ones who are colder than Ice. When Enoch, after he had been translated, was allowed to return to earth for forty days in order to reveal his writings to his sons, the Lord calls forth an ancient angel colder than Ice to touch the face of Enoch, after saying to him; "If thy face were not frozen here, no man would be able to behold thee".

The cherubim are the chariot of God: King David supplies Solomon with all the silver and gold needed in the construction of the Temple.

RSV: 1 chronicles 28: 18; for the altar of incense made of refined gold, and its weight; also his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.

Psalms 18: 7-15.

Then the earth reeled and rocked;
the foundations also of the mountains trembled
and quaked, because he was angry.
8 Smoke went up from his nostrils,
and devouring fire from his mouth;
glowing coals flamed forth from him.
9 He bowed the heavens, and came down;
thick darkness was under his feet.
10 He rode on a cherub, and flew;
he came swiftly upon the wings of the wind.
11 He made darkness his covering around him,
his canopy thick clouds dark with water.
12 Out of the brightness before him
there broke through his clouds
hailstones and coals of fire.
13 The Lord also thundered in the heavens,
and the Most High uttered his voice.[a]
14 And he sent out his arrows, and scattered them;
he flashed forth lightnings, and routed them.
15 Then the channels of the sea were seen,
and the foundations of the world were laid bare
at your rebuke, O Lord,
at the blast of the breath of your nostrils.

Peace.

[Morpheus]

“Electrons swarm around that empty space in cloud formations,” the narrator explains in the video, comparing them to blades on a fan. When you look at a stationary fan, there is a lot of empty space.Turn it on, however, and it's a different story.
The blades move at such a speed that it is as if they are everywhere at the same time – the same is true for the electrons in an atom."

Regarding the O.P. The flaming sword by the Cherub in the Garden.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ifl...through-walls/

Rotating fan, or flaming sword?
The Physicist Roger Penrose states that "the big bang" is the end of a former universe, as well as the beginning of this one.

Originally Posted by Morpheus

The Physicist Roger Penrose states that "the big bang" is the end of a former universe, as well as the beginning of this one.

According to the German theoretical physicist, Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck: One Planck time is the time it would take a photon travelling at the speed of light to cross a distance equal to one Planck length.

There is currently no known way to measure time intervals on the scale of the Planck time.

In a contracting universe, the contracting space goes beyond plank length. To reach the point where the previous generation of the eternal oscillating universe becomes the singularity of origin for the next period of universal activity, where there is zero space, in which there is zero momentum.

All that exists is the infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small ‘SINGULARITY’ in which the entire universe, with all the genetic information gained from previous universal bodies, is contained, until the next event, which we call “The Big Bang.” That singularity is spatially separated and spews out, an extremely hot liquid like plasma of electromagnetic energy, which our scientists claim that the universal temperature at the instant of the Big Bang, was 100 million trillion trillion kelvins, or 180 million trillion trillion degrees Fahrenheit, a temperature in which no physical element can exist.
That eternal energy, which can never be created and never be destroyed, then transforms itself into the next generation of the universe.

“According to the ancients, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time. A universe that exists in the two states of seemingly visible matter and invisible energy.”

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being too non-being, and again from non-being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all, the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day, a period of universal activity of light and life, as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis. ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day, and is seen as the period of rest for the “GREAT THOUGHT’. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis 2: 4; as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth,” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; it is written concerning the six days of creation; “These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc.” And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection, are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an ‘EIGHTH’ day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one aeon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it.

Peace.

[Mikarikel88]

The angels have sword and they use it for battle like in the war of the devil and God. Swords are used and man will not enter. He must be baptized and be ressurected.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by The Cobbler's Apprentice

"Suffering thus not only includes the suffering that will invariably be associated with ordinary life, such as birth, aging, disease, and death, but also subsumes a full range of mental, emotional, and spiritual dissatisfactions, and ultimately is seen to be inherent to life itself"
(From The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism)
"Inherent" definition:- existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.

You're speaking about, "The Organic".

[Miss Hepburn]

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