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Old 27-04-2020, 07:20 AM
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Destiny of the Unevangelized.

John 5:11-12
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.


Then we have


Luke 3:6
All mankind will see God's salvation. (Isaiah 40:5)
John 12:32
But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.
Romans 5:18
Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.



Justin Martyr, a Church Father, taught that those who lived according to the logos are Christians, though they might not know about Jesus Christ..... Tertullian held that Christ has descended into Hades to deliver the Good News..... Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Athanasius declaring that "Jesus delivered from hell both Jews and Gentiles who accepted the gospel and that postmortem evangelism continues even today".....Augustine of Hippo, however, believed that the unevangelized are condemned to hell..... Thomas Aquinas held that those "brought up in the forest or among wolves" would be sent "the gospel message through miraculous means."



So many conflicting views it's not surprising that Religion divides rather than unites.....
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Old 27-04-2020, 09:23 AM
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I believe the Love of the Father will get His message across
to all people through Love.
All people know about Love and desire it.
Lets hope they do not twist it into lust.
But in every man/woman should be the ability to Love
and tell right from wrong by their own conscience
and Heart and Spirit and mind.
May all men/women be lifted up into the Love of the Father.
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Old 28-04-2020, 02:06 AM
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Too late! You missed it.

Last edited by ketzer : 28-04-2020 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Ephemeral posting, its the latest thing.
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Old 28-04-2020, 02:32 AM
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I believe the Love of the Father will get His message across to all people through Love.
May all men/women be lifted up into the Love of the Father.
This is a very concise short version, in my opinion.
I don't need complicated interpretations from others with fancy titles.
This above is it for me.

'brought up thru miraculous means'...nice, Tom of Aquinas.
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Old 28-04-2020, 05:48 AM
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I believe the Love of the Father will get His message across
to all people through Love.
All people know about Love and desire it.
Lets hope they do not twist it into lust.
But in every man/woman should be the ability to Love
and tell right from wrong by their own conscience
and Heart and Spirit and mind.
May all men/women be lifted up into the Love of the Father.



' But in every man/woman should be the ability to Love '


But unfortunately some seem not to have this ability.
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Old 29-04-2020, 01:25 AM
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' But in every man/woman should be the ability to Love '


But unfortunately some seem not to have this ability.

Each and every person who does not have 'the ability to Love' can reach out and get help so they to can learn how wonderful it is to be able to Love.

In our societies, I would say this affliction is a rarity. Probably one place where you might find people who have this problem is in the penal institutions.
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Old 29-04-2020, 01:33 AM
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John 5:11-12
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.


Then we have


Luke 3:6
All mankind will see God's salvation. (Isaiah 40:5)
John 12:32
But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.
Romans 5:18
Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.



Justin Martyr, a Church Father, taught that those who lived according to the logos are Christians, though they might not know about Jesus Christ..... Tertullian held that Christ has descended into Hades to deliver the Good News..... Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Athanasius declaring that "Jesus delivered from hell both Jews and Gentiles who accepted the gospel and that postmortem evangelism continues even today".....Augustine of Hippo, however, believed that the unevangelized are condemned to hell..... Thomas Aquinas held that those "brought up in the forest or among wolves" would be sent "the gospel message through miraculous means."



So many conflicting views it's not surprising that Religion divides rather than unites.....

The main source for this material can be found in Wikipedia under the heading "Fate of the unlearned".

This is typical Christian Apologist material. I was surprised to find that even in Buddhism, there are Buddhist Apologist.


I suspect we will be seeing a lot more Christian Apologist material.
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Old 29-04-2020, 05:55 AM
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The main source for this material can be found in Wikipedia under the heading "Fate of the unlearned".

This is typical Christian Apologist material. I was surprised to find that even in Buddhism, there are Buddhist Apologist.


I suspect we will be seeing a lot more Christian Apologist material.


Yes you can find more info: anywhere on any subject you find of interest.
The source of this Thread came from the Bible and early Christian Writings....
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Old 29-04-2020, 06:07 AM
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Each and every person who does not have 'the ability to Love' can reach out and get help so they to can learn how wonderful it is to be able to Love.

In our societies, I would say this affliction is a rarity. Probably one place where you might find people who have this problem is in the penal institutions.


Those who do not have the ability to Love can sometimes get help from outside but unfortunately it is not always possible to change their inner issues, Psychologist are not available to everyone in this world and some Mental/Medical problems are untreatable....
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Old 29-04-2020, 06:59 AM
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Those who do not have the ability to Love can sometimes get help from outside but unfortunately it is not always possible to change their inner issues, Psychologist are not available to everyone in this world and some Mental/Medical problems are untreatable....

It is hard for me to believe there are people you claim that can not show love.

For example: They can not give a gift as an expression of love.

They can not help somebody as an act of love.

They can not show affection to their children, spouse, parents, siblings, etc.


I would assume such people are a rarity.

If they can not express love, then I assume they express the opposite of love which is hate.


About how many people fit into that category?
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