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Old 19-02-2015, 08:36 PM
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Living in the Present

Where I come from, it feels as if there is so much conditioning, that people are always looking to the future. Everyone has a plan & it is the driving force of our lives.

I had plans, which I have revised & tweaked many times over. Recently changing course completely after being blocked on a spiritual level. When I set out on my new path, almost immediately I felt the block again. To borrow a quote from the film: The Matrix

“you've been down that road, you know where it leads”

To me this says “different job, same pile of dung.” Even though I had set out to do something philanthropic my soul is telling me NO! No, no, no, stop, stop, stop!

My guidance has been to live in the present. To be in the here & now. While I can see option's on the horizon I am unsure where I might be heading.
It makes me feel insecure, I'm not familiar with this way of being.
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Old 19-02-2015, 09:15 PM
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When we most need guidance is when we're stepping into the as yet unknown. It's those take a breath and jump moments.

What I find interesting is that excitement and anxiety are the same feeling, interpreted differently by expectation. Trust is a big part of how we feel entering the unknown. But I reckon our own guidance is good.
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Old 20-02-2015, 01:19 AM
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When we most need guidance is when we're stepping into the as yet unknown. It's those take a breath and jump moments.

What I find interesting is that excitement and anxiety are the same feeling, interpreted differently by expectation. Trust is a big part of how we feel entering the unknown. But I reckon our own guidance is good.

Well said!
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Old 20-02-2015, 08:00 AM
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Where I come from, it feels as if there is so much conditioning, that people are always looking to the future. Everyone has a plan & it is the driving force of our lives.

I had plans, which I have revised & tweaked many times over. Recently changing course completely after being blocked on a spiritual level. When I set out on my new path, almost immediately I felt the block again. To borrow a quote from the film: The Matrix

“you've been down that road, you know where it leads”

To me this says “different job, same pile of dung.” Even though I had set out to do something philanthropic my soul is telling me NO! No, no, no, stop, stop, stop!

My guidance has been to live in the present. To be in the here & now. While I can see option's on the horizon I am unsure where I might be heading.
It makes me feel insecure, I'm not familiar with this way of being.

So be ok with that. Adjusting to a new paradigm takes time.
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Old 20-02-2015, 01:43 PM
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Caught up in the chase of phenomena and then breaking free may take some rewriting of the script of who one IS may take some time, although no time is reqired. Nothing unknown about it, just remembering.

Many feelings during withdrawal.
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Old 20-02-2015, 02:56 PM
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I didn't realize how in the present I was until a co-worker turned
best friend always, and I mean always, lives in the future ...
for the last 29 yrs I have known her!
It is amazing to watch and listen to...the funny thing is ...is I have been with
her in these "future events'' and in those present moments she isn't enjoying herself!
The very thing she was planning and getting excited about!

I don't say a thing, not for 29 yrs, this is just how she lives
...it is very fascinating to watch the pathology, tho.

I was surprised that a new friend even mentioned it to me ...that she lives in the future.
No judgment...just different.

So I really get your post, Astro...I agree...and luv The Matrix!
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Old 20-02-2015, 03:11 PM
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The older you get the less you worry about the future. Which makes sense since there's less of it for every day that passes. And life? Life is what happened regardless of what you planned.
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Old 20-02-2015, 06:52 PM
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Making plans and goals for a future is useful, it's a precious skill, we are capable of creating mental projections into the future.

But every tool can be use in a righteous way or in an incorrect way.

There is a time to think in future projects, there is a time to remember the past and gather its wisdom, there is time to live in the present just as it is :)

After all we have all the time of the universe (eternity)
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Old 20-02-2015, 07:13 PM
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I'm agreeing with n2mec on this one but I'm not altogether sure why but after almost four years of doing almost nothing it does seem relevant.

And in answering this post, knowing there was an answer, but not quite knowing what it was, it occurred to me that I've come by this by the nature of things. I'm still kinda sitting with it and yet to go out the other side but the years and years of making stuff seems pertinent.

As in wanting stuff but not being bothered doing all the work to afford it so going the other way and making it myself to the point where anything I put my mind to can be achieved ended up putting a really big question mark over why anything might even be achieved in the first place.

I know it was driven initially by a need to fit in then turned into a need to stand apart and make it work for me then just plain discovery without having to impress anyone and eventually this talent for being able to just do what ever was required pared down the needs almost to non existence.

The law of diminishing returns, looking back, was one of the most interesting kind of developments whereby the enough time, the it'll do for the work required, came into play and this then gave an almost wholly new aesthetic to being which made the discovery of the 'the power of now' seem like an almost forgone conclusion.
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Old 21-02-2015, 12:51 PM
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When we most need guidance is when we're stepping into the as yet unknown. It's those take a breath and jump moments.

What I find interesting is that excitement and anxiety are the same feeling, interpreted differently by expectation. Trust is a big part of how we feel entering the unknown. But I reckon our own guidance is good.

That's good advice thank you Ivy. I like your agrument about excitement & anxiety being the same thing, that's very though provoking.
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