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25-08-2023, 03:23 PM
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Which Eastern Religion teaches that there is no good or evil ? I'm trying to see what you mean. The Title of your Thread is asking a question....
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You told me yourself you do not believe there is good or evil.
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25-08-2023, 04:53 PM
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You told me yourself you do not believe there is good or evil.
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Yes that is my personal belief not Religious.... If there is good and evil then we have to have 'general morality'.Morality is viewed differently from culture to culture, person to person, the most popular opinion around us is generally what we consider to be good or bad and we change our opinions when it suit's us.... Look at Religions, some see slaughtering those who do not hold your beliefs as being good., the Christians also slaughtered in the name of God and believed what they were doing as being good and I could go on and on but will leave it.....
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25-08-2023, 05:31 PM
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No religion teaches there is no good or evil. But I have heard it said many times. Usually by mystics. What worries me is that one is left with neutrality. Is neutrality really the answer?
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25-08-2023, 08:15 PM
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No religion teaches there is no good or evil. But I have heard it said many times. Usually by mystics. What worries me is that one is left with neutrality. Is neutrality really the answer?
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Why does it worry you ?
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25-08-2023, 11:37 PM
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Why does it worry you ?
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Is neutrality a worthy God? It is very indifferent. I have tasted evil, good and neutrality. By far my favourite experience is goodness.
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26-08-2023, 01:44 AM
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It refers to motive. We say goodwill is 'good' and ill-will is 'evil'. It's only believing good and evil are external forces (usually perpetuated by supernatural beings) that is questionable, but even if that is true, it's dependent on their volition.
I don't know if pride is a wrong intent. Not sure what 'pride' means exactly, but taking pride in your work means you're motivated to do it well. I think that's a good motive. if 'pride' means vanity, then not so good (sez the guy who flexes in the mirror ).
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26-08-2023, 01:53 AM
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No religion teaches there is no good or evil. But I have heard it said many times. Usually by mystics. What worries me is that one is left with neutrality. Is neutrality really the answer?
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Neutrality is important, but it only means non-reactive. Wrong volitions are incited by a reactive mind. No good will come from greed and hatred toward yourself, others or the world. The neutrality of mind we call equanimity is the ability to leave experiences as they are without aversion toward them nor craving that they should be other than they are. As such, avoidance and resistance subsides along with clinging and grasping, and the true love of the universe can emanate through.
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26-08-2023, 06:13 AM
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Is neutrality a worthy God? It is very indifferent. I have tasted evil, good and neutrality. By far my favourite experience is goodness.
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The Bible doesn't seem to recognize these three categories of good, neutral, and evil.If one is not doing good, then one must be doing evil, they obviously didn't understand that what some see as good is evil to others and vice versa....
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26-08-2023, 09:57 AM
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Neutrality is important, but it only means non-reactive. Wrong volitions are incited by a reactive mind. No good will come from greed and hatred toward yourself, others or the world. The neutrality of mind we call equanimity is the ability to leave experiences as they are without aversion toward them nor craving that they should be other than they are. As such, avoidance and resistance subsides along with clinging and grasping, and the true love of the universe can emanate through.
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Neutrality can be important. But one can reach a state of such equanimity that one is totally unaffected by badness (bad things happening, like murder etc.) and even go so far as to ENJOY the bad things.
Enlightenment implies that one is happy with everything - both good and bad. So while one person is suffering, another person is enjoying it.
Also one reaches a state of complete equanimity with good things. So that no merit is ascribed to that goodness. It just becomes an equal part of the whole.
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26-08-2023, 10:58 AM
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Enlightenment implies that one is happy with everything - both good and bad. So while one person is suffering, another person is enjoying
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Really, I've not heard that description before....
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