Adam and Eve's children

[sky]

Originally Posted by white pegasus

hi the following post is copied from what sky posted

"It is from a Christian perspective, very few Christians believe these stories to be true."
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sky i wanted to address your statement because I think its interesting...and it comes from a place of sincerity.okay here goes

when you say very few Christians believe these stories to be true.heres the thing-how can a true measurement of hristians be asked if they believe the stories to be true in order for the conclusion to be made that very few christians believe,,,,

how does one draw such a conclusion.it would mean you would have to ask all the christians in the world if they believe-tally their answers and then define what is meant by a few.

Where I am going with this.how can anyone make that statement "very few christians" its misleading and suggests that you have asked all the christians in the world
again Im not attempting to stir up an arguement but you are called a master(as it is under your profile name) and yet people might misunderstand and believe what you claim

Surveys WP, and Teachings from various Christian Theologians.

Here is a short excerpt that you may find interesting.....


' Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching. It allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul. Pope Pius XII declared that “the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God” (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36). So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents, as our bodies are. '

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

Surveys WP, and Teachings from various Christian Theologians.

Here is a short excerpt that you may find interesting.....


' Concerning human evolution, the Church has a more definite teaching. It allows for the possibility that man’s body developed from previous biological forms, under God’s guidance, but it insists on the special creation of his soul. Pope Pius XII declared that “the teaching authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions . . . take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter—[but] the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God” (Pius XII, Humani Generis 36). So whether the human body was specially created or developed, we are required to hold as a matter of Catholic faith that the human soul is specially created; it did not evolve, and it is not inherited from our parents, as our bodies are. '

how is

"Peter Kien-hong YU is Professor at Swinburne University of Technology in Sarawak, Malaysia. He also was Director of the Graduate School of International Affairs at Ming Chuan University, Professor at the National Sun Yat-sen University, and Senior Research fellow at the National University of Singapore. He is the author of over 15 books in both English and Chinese and over 90 journal articles and book chapters published in the West." source: https://www.bloomsbury.com/author/peter-kien-hong-yu

qualified on this subject?

[white pegasus]

sky ty for the article, but you have not addressed my inquiry about how you can say that very few christians believe these stories.........you responded with surveys but how many surveys were sent ouy-do you understand what Im attempting to say here-you are maing a statement about most christians but you Im challenging that "most" christians have been surveyed-if they have where is the resukts of the survey-how many surveys were sent out?

[theophilus]

All Christians accept the book of Genesis as being literally true. Satan is at work in the world spreading false gospels and as a result there are many who believe they are Christians when in fact they are not. Some of these false Christians reject the literal truth of Genesis.

Originally Posted by theophilus

All Christians accept the book of Genesis as being literally true. Satan is at work in the world spreading false gospels and as a result there are many who believe they are Christians when in fact they are not. Some of these false Christians reject the literal truth of Genesis.

Please do tell. What is the literal truth of Genesis.

Then I can know the false Christians from the Real Christians.

[sky]

Originally Posted by white pegasus

sky ty for the article, but you have not addressed my inquiry about how you can say that very few christians believe these stories.........you responded with surveys but how many surveys were sent ouy-do you understand what Im attempting to say here-you are maing a statement about most christians but you Im challenging that "most" christians have been surveyed-if they have where is the resukts of the survey-how many surveys were sent out?

All public Surveys are available online, you can search around yourself and see the results.

There is no absolute truth that one person can convey with words spoken or written. At best one can merely just state there perspective on the situation but it will always be extremely narrow-minded and manipulated do to the ego/ opinion of the person that is speaking about the experience. If we want absolute truth it's something we have to personally experienced and unfortunately that means that Genesis and the rest of the bible are a little obsolete

[sky]

Originally Posted by theophilus

All Christians accept the book of Genesis as being literally true. Satan is at work in the world spreading false gospels and as a result there are many who believe they are Christians when in fact they are not. Some of these false Christians reject the literal truth of Genesis.

Well we will have to agree to disagree on that Theo

What is a 'False Christians' ?

[davidmartin]

Theophilus,
i think the truth of Christianity isn't tied to particular understandings of scripture. Because there's many different christian churches with different beliefs in the three main branches Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant and innumerable sub-groups and offshoots
I think it's admirable to want to be true to Christianity but i don't think you can do it through scriptural interpretations alone that might be a guide but it can't be that simple!

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

There is no absolute truth that one person can convey with words spoken or written. At best one can merely just state there perspective on the situation but it will always be extremely narrow-minded and manipulated do to the ego/ opinion of the person that is speaking about the experience. If we want absolute truth it's something we have to personally experienced and unfortunately that means that Genesis and the rest of the bible are a little obsolete

Totally agree,MAYA EL.