Can the mind

sky · #1 17-11-2022, 05:51 PM

which is naturally dualistic create the sense of separation from God ?

FallingLeaves · #2 17-11-2022, 07:55 PM

one can draw a line in the sand, anywhere one wants, and then step to whichever side of the line one wants to step to.

FWIW in my view most people choose to assume the lines some other person/people have described is best, and that there is a best side to step to based on the same types of descriptions...

muffin · #3 18-11-2022, 01:03 AM

Good afternoon sky

Two houses comes to mind

James 1:22-25

hope your keeping well and out of trouble

Miss Hepburn · #4 18-11-2022, 12:06 PM

Can the mind create a sense of separation from God? -
That is it's very nature.

Now, can the limited mind, which is dualistic in nature, create the sense of oneness and union with God?
Or
can going beyond the mind to utter stillness to just awareness unveil the oneness
with God ?

sky · #5 19-11-2022, 05:26 AM

"The chief thing that separates us from God is the thought that we are separated from God."

Thomas Keating.

sky · #6 19-11-2022, 05:55 AM

“that they all be one; as you, Father, are in me, and I am in you, also may they be in us” (John 17.21).

This Verse seems to me to take a second dimension of non-duality and refers to what we now call Christ Consciousness.....

AngelBlue · #7 19-11-2022, 08:23 AM

...my tuppence worth.
The "mind" is complex beyond comprehension , a bit like the universe ... It is infinite with its ability to hold and store information .
It is probably the most amazing "invention " in all of creation.

But it is so so so so SO very fragile.
Despite its complexity it is so fragile and can be damaged so easily ,just like a birds egg stolen from it's nest.

So even though it is superior in its evolution it can so easily be destroyed because of its fragility in one form or another.

Illness... Preaching ... Brainwashing ....
Believing those that want to cause harm...
Trauma from events that cause the mind to switch off.
Beatings , torture , rape , watching loved ones suffer... Seeing little children go through hell..Wars, violence ...
It's endless .
Having to cope with all of this is horrible and makes one wonder how any of us cope with it .
But we do ....... Somehow.

But we Cannot, and Should not , and should never detach from God, or Angels, or spirit guides or anyone in the higher realms because of it.

Even though life can be terrible , and whether we "believe" or we don't , God is not to blame.
Too often , during times of struggle or despair we need to blame someone.
Usually it's God.
But I never blame God.

So in short ( !)
The answer is ... "NO"...

sky · #8 19-11-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AngelBlue

So in short ( !)
The answer is ... "NO"...

So what do you personally think causes a 'sense' of separation if not the mind AB ? Imo it's definitely not 'sin' which I was taught as a child....

Molearner · #9 19-11-2022, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sky

So what do you personally think causes a 'sense' of separation if not the mind AB ? Imo it's definitely not 'sin' which I was taught as a child....

Sky,

I would suggest approaching this question from the opposite direction: What causes the greatest feeling of oneness with God ? My answer would probably be the experience of love….that is when the world seems right. From this standpoint, therefore, the feeling of separation from God will concur with the absence of love.

sky · #10 19-11-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky,
I would suggest approaching this question from the opposite direction: What causes the greatest feeling of oneness with God ? My answer would probably be the experience of love…

I like to approach it coming from the mind Mo as everything starts with mind and our thoughts create our reality....