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Originally Posted by one-light
New Age Movement have facts right, and you don't have to be called a Christian to believe in Angel's - when some people say trust or thank the universe do they believe in God Jesus and the Holy Spirit I wonder......
I'm just in sunny Wales / Prestatyn - rebooting the system...
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I think -at least for me- the big difference is that the meaning of what you mention is decided upon by a group of men -no woman involved- when they made the Nicene Creed.
One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit apparently is "fear of the lord"????
I never understood why extreme Christians fear the lord. I come across that online from Americans a lot, them stating that, also Africans btw.
I've never heard of that in my life but I haven't been raised a strict churchie either.
I would never ever fear the lord as to me A) there is no lord since it is Source or the Divine. That is not masculine nor feminine. "The lord" refers to patriarchal society which church is part of, even began at the time. I don't support patriarchal thinking. I don't follow that doctrine, nor wish to, which is also why I refuse to write that word with a capital letter. Source or Divine with capital, yes.
B) Source is about love so why fear? Unless you fear love. Source doesn't punish us.
I think the fear part was added by the men creating the Nicene Creed because through fear they could control and manipulate the people. And looking at what happened in the following centuries one could say that worked well!
Jesus to me is the Ascended Master Jesus. Same goes for Mary, Mary Magdalene etc.
I used to have a wall ornament of Jesus on the cross. I wasn't a practising churchie but it was a family piece so I did have it up.
The day I let go of religion and embraced Paganism and later on being a Lightworker I took that ornament down.
Not ever in my life will I revere something so cruel and so horrible by putting a representation of it up in my home.
I am on the lookout for a Holy Heart figurine though as that DOES represent Jesus as who he was: the bringer of the Christ Light and Christ Consciousness, the Ascended Master.
So if I say thank you or trust, I am addressing Spirit, Source, the Divine, or Angels, or Archangels, etc.
I do not put church name stickers on those as I'm not a churchie and flatly refuse to use their words and doctrine.
That btw doesn't mean I dislike churchies. Some have a really beautiful thing going. But I've also seen a great many stuck in the negative aspects of it all. As in locking their children in a cupboard when they felt they had reason for it, hitting them, mental/verbal/emotional abuse of the kids etc. etc. all in the name of god.
All 4 of their kids turned into adults with issues, only 1 is doing okayish.
That kind of thing fills me with disgust and sadness.
The Divine is love, never ever an excuse to hurt another being.
My view.
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