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Old 12-08-2020, 05:56 AM
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There are no hunters...there is nothing to hunt & nothing to gain by hunting down others. because life without the flesh is all abundant.

The hunters in your experiences are a deception, & are part of senarios, that are put into play by unloving beings that are endeavouring to keep the truth of the life without the flesh, from you.

Ps, try replying in a more loving manner & also try listening to others if you wish to grow & learn in life.

I studied many many NDEs and what you say comes from a place of truth.. so so many talk about this incredible Love, that there is no judgement, in fact, we are the ones judging ourselves... but maybe that does not mean there are no such places were beings are trapped.. I don't know, I know there are unloving beings out there..
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:00 AM
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I studied many many NDEs and what you say comes from a place of truth.. so so many talk about this incredible Love, that there is no judgement, in fact, we are the ones judging ourselves... but maybe that does not mean there are no such places were beings are trapped.. I don't know, I know there are unloving beings out there..

The thing is, no one gets instantly shunted off away from this planet for judgment, after they are finally liberated from the flesh.
They simply drift out & away from their body & they are still located on the Earth & in the same realm, dimention as they were before the liberation. They now have the choice to hang around the Earth & do whatever they choose. Or they can find their way to the outer fringes of the first sphere of the lesser spiritual Heavens/land.

There is no judgment, We are our own judge & jury. Via the law of "reap as one sows".

& the hidden truth is, that dark entities are in phenomenal plaque proportions on this planet. & they interfere in every Earthlings life 100%.."I KID YOU NOT".
All manner of scripture alludes to that, though very poorly.

Jesus said, "forgive them Father for they know not what they do". If you ever become aware of the "phenomenal plaque proportions", you will come to understand that this is what jesus was getting at.

Now, when you yourself are finally liberated from the flesh, you will learn that the dark ones are the origin of all evil that arises within 99.999% occuring of all Earthlings.

AND, though we participated in the unloving acts against this universe & OTHER persons, you will soon learn that we are not held responsible for those acts after we are liberated from the flesh. A free pass is given so to speak.

AND, this is why Jesus said to the guy next to him on the cross, that he will be in the spiritual Heavens with Jesus that night.

BUT, if that guy decided by his own choice to stay on Earth & join in & participate in unlovingness, with the phenomenal quantities of dark beings that are in plaque proportions, then the "reap law" will work to the fullest on his Soul'self moment by moment, according to the severity of his unlovingness.

Judgement is given in the "moment" in every case & situation. Without fail. Judgement is not held over to a later date.
"AN EYE FOR AN EYE"...so to speak VIA the " reap law".
AND, i'm telling you, you havn't seen nothing, till you have seen the devastating effects that this law pays out on any person who is solely responsible for their own unlovingness.

Believe it or not though. or at the very least, try to remember it.
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:24 AM
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Lol and you know this because? If you didn't experienced something, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, now does it!

P.s. Why do you think you are the master, maybe this is just a deception only in your mind.

There was a male member on this forum, who was a self professed absolute master at traveling outside of his body, i also once attempted to give him some advice. That he refuted just as you have done.

I read all of his accounts of his OBE adventures, & I kept to myself and smiled & did not respond at all, whilst all the while I knew that he was being escorted out of his body & transported at breakneck speeds to locations that he new not off. He did not know that he was being escorted & he did not know that the places that he ended up in were set up to discretely confuse him. though i knew that it was.

And after about two years of reading his posts, he finally posted that he had become aware that their was a third party of unknown identy, that had been all the while escorting him to his out of body destinations. He, refered to the escorting, as "triporting", which he named it.

Go figure EH. He had know clue either, just the same as all astral travelers, that he was being shunted to locations, where senarios had been set up to keep him busy battling & or running from "BAD ENTITIES".

RealityShifter....Believe it or not, as I truely couldn't care less. Your choice.

Ps, same with the so called astral police. They also are in place & play, & there to stop Earthlings from discovering the truth of life without the flesh.
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Old 12-08-2020, 08:16 AM
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There was a male member on this forum, who was a self professed absolute master at traveling outside of his body, i also once attempted to give him some advice. That he refuted just as you have done.

I read all of his accounts of his OBE adventures, & I kept to myself and smiled & did not respond at all, whilst all the while I knew that he was being escorted out of his body & transported at breakneck speeds to locations that he new not off. He did not know that he was being escorted & he did not know that the places that he ended up in were set up to discretely confuse him. though i knew that it was.

And after about two years of reading his posts, he finally posted that he had become aware that their was a third party of unknown identy, that had been all the while escorting him to his out of body destinations. He, refered to the escorting, as "triporting", which he named it.

Go figure EH. He had know clue either, just the same as all astral travelers, that he was being shunted to locations, where senarios had been set up to keep him busy battling & or running from "BAD ENTITIES".

RealityShifter....Believe it or not, as I truely couldn't care less. Your choice.

Ps, same with the so called astral police. They also are in place & play, & there to stop Earthlings from discovering the truth of life without the flesh.

This is exactly what I noticed too! I felt another presence and it made me feel disgaust and it smelled like sulfur...I felt like throwing up in the middle of my out of body experience, I felt that all that I see is a product of this entity that is tricking me to believe I am the one doing everything.
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Old 12-08-2020, 08:18 AM
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The thing is, no one gets instantly shunted off away from this planet for judgment, after they are finally liberated from the flesh.
They simply drift out & away from their body & they are still located on the Earth & in the same realm, dimention as they were before the liberation. They now have the choice to hang around the Earth & do whatever they choose. Or they can find their way to the outer fringes of the first sphere of the lesser spiritual Heavens/land.

There is no judgment, We are our own judge & jury. Via the law of "reap as one sows".

& the hidden truth is, that dark entities are in phenomenal plaque proportions on this planet. & they interfere in every Earthlings life 100%.."I KID YOU NOT".
All manner of scripture alludes to that, though very poorly.

Jesus said, "forgive them Father for they know not what they do". If you ever become aware of the "phenomenal plaque proportions", you will come to understand that this is what jesus was getting at.

Now, when you yourself are finally liberated from the flesh, you will learn that the dark ones are the origin of all evil that arises within 99.999% occuring of all Earthlings.

AND, though we participated in the unloving acts against this universe & OTHER persons, you will soon learn that we are not held responsible for those acts after we are liberated from the flesh. A free pass is given so to speak.

AND, this is why Jesus said to the guy next to him on the cross, that he will be in the spiritual Heavens with Jesus that night.

BUT, if that guy decided by his own choice to stay on Earth & join in & participate in unlovingness, with the phenomenal quantities of dark beings that are in plaque proportions, then the "reap law" will work to the fullest on his Soul'self moment by moment, according to the severity of his unlovingness.

Judgement is given in the "moment" in every case & situation. Without fail. Judgement is not held over to a later date.
"AN EYE FOR AN EYE"...so to speak VIA the " reap law".
AND, i'm telling you, you havn't seen nothing, till you have seen the devastating effects that this law pays out on any person who is solely responsible for their own unlovingness.

Believe it or not though. or at the very least, try to remember it.

I hear you and to me it makes sense because I've seen the evil that it's not of human nature, it's from another place...
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Old 12-08-2020, 09:16 AM
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This is exactly what I noticed too! I felt another presence and it made me feel disgaust and it smelled like sulfur...I felt like throwing up in the middle of my out of body experience, I felt that all that I see is a product of this entity that is tricking me to believe I am the one doing everything.
& the unseen dark entities are the origin & reason why people go through sleep paralysis or the inability to see & or hear when out of body.

"I know the above to be a reality", because i have experienced the above many times and have experienced the dark ones interfering & laughing whilst i was experiencing.

Also they are the reason why billions of Earthlings can not effect an out of body experience.

Also the concept of the body needing sleep, is a deceptive fellacy. The body does not sleep, it only recuperates, & while it is recuperating Earthlings do not need to be asleep.
Instead when the body is recuperating, we should not be asleep, we should be out of body. Because we are not Human beings, we are spiritual beings & spiritual beings do not need sleep. Spiritual beings "US" are one 100% full time conscious beings & never should be non'conscious & should not be asleep.

You may say well why do we fall asleep, well again I say that there are phenomenal quantities of the dark minded unseen beings, & they are VERY capable of attaching to Earthlings & drawing us into a semi out of body state of being, so that we are in between, being in our body & out of our body.

And whilst we are in this situation, the dark ones very easily create dream sequences, in order to keep our minds active & unable to figure out that we are in this deceptive state of being. And they do their best to stop us from becoming lucid whilst we are in this false sleep state. Yet as you very well know some of us do become lucid...ie:- lucid dream state "so to speak".

The dark ones do not want Earthlings to have out of body experiences. & when Earthlings do manage to get out, the dark ones, discretely hinder every aspect of the OB experience.

Hard to believe, yes i KNOW. But i suggest that the above will become every persons reality, after they are finally liberated from the flesh.

"This added on"
....and the above is not even scratching a tiny part of the tip of an iceberg.
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Old 12-08-2020, 10:40 AM
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& the unseen dark entities are the origin & reason why people go through sleep paralysis or the inability to see & or hear when out of body.

"I know the above to be a reality", because i have experienced the above many times and have experienced the dark ones interfering & laughing whilst i was experiencing.

Also they are the reason why billions of Earthlings can not effect an out of body experience.

Also the concept of the body needing sleep, is a deceptive fellacy. The body does not sleep, it only recuperates, & while it is recuperating Earthlings do not need to be asleep.
Instead when the body is recuperating, we should not be asleep, we should be out of body. Because we are not Human beings, we are spiritual beings & spiritual beings do not need sleep. Spiritual beings "US" are one 100% full time conscious beings & never should be non'conscious & should not be asleep.

You may say well why do we fall asleep, well again I say that there are phenomenal quantities of the dark minded unseen beings, & they are VERY capable of attaching to Earthlings & drawing us into a semi out of body state of being, so that we are in between, being in our body & out of our body.

And whilst we are in this situation, the dark ones very easily create dream sequences, in order to keep our minds active & unable to figure out that we are in this deceptive state of being. And they do their best to stop us from becoming lucid whilst we are in this false sleep state. Yet as you very well know some of us do become lucid...ie:- lucid dream state "so to speak".

The dark ones do not want Earthlings to have out of body experiences. & when Earthlings do manage to get out, the dark ones, discretely hinder every aspect of the OB experience.

Hard to believe, yes i KNOW. But i suggest that the above will become every persons reality, after they are finally liberated from the flesh.

"This added on"
....and the above is not even scratching a tiny part of the tip of an iceberg.

How do you wake up from this deception, how can you get straight to the Source? How can you call for help? What is to be done? What is your way of going beyond this deception?
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:32 AM
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How do you wake up from this deception, how can you get straight to the Source? How can you call for help? What is to be done? What is your way of going beyond this deception?
Have any of the sayings from Jesus, that i have quoted in these last few posts kind of piqued your mind.

Here is another one..."you HAVE to have & keep faith".
Why should Jesus say that we need faith. Why can we not have access to our God give spiritual abilities of the mind, are we not spirit beings. So what if we are connected to a flesh body, the flesh should not hinder our spiritual god given abilities.

& so i will say it again...."absolute mind boggling phenomenal quantities of dark minded entities" can & do attach to Earthlings & have a 100% capable ability to override & hinder our God given spiritual abilities AND can absolutely 100%, hinder our ability to get to Christ the Father, AND our ability to access the Holy spirit.

"THIS IS KNOWN AS THE SPIRITUAL VEIL"

And yes, i know what everyone is now thinking. Some of you think that you can hear God the Christ entity & or Jesus & even the Holy spirit & even angels. However the dark ones can & do simulate all of that as well. And scripture refers to that fact "doesn't it".

I continuously experience the above, i know of their power of the mind.

And their abilities & their desire to access a debaucherous life style through Earthlings, is the sole reason for it all.
I've been a wake up to the deception for approximately 12 years & know how they implement the discrete spiritual veil that hinders our abilities & connection to God the Father. & still I can not rid myself of it & everything else.

& that is why i will be implementing my right to sever the silver cord & leave the Earth & the flesh behind, & find my way to the Spiritual Heavens/lands.
& i will definitely be doing it as soon as my dad joins my mother in the nursing home.
And so untill then, i will keep the faith, & live life as close to "gods way of love" as i can whilst living in this mess as i know it to be.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:53 AM
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Have any of the sayings from Jesus, that i have quoted in these last few posts kind of piqued your mind.

Here is another one..."you HAVE to have & keep faith".
Why should Jesus say that we need faith. Why can we not have access to our God give spiritual abilities of the mind, are we not spirit beings. So what if we are connected to a flesh body, the flesh should not hinder our spiritual god given abilities.

& so i will say it again...."absolute mind boggling phenomenal quantities of dark minded entities" can & do attach to Earthlings & have a 100% capable ability to override & hinder our God given spiritual abilities AND can absolutely 100%, hinder our ability to get to Christ the Father, AND our ability to access the Holy spirit.

"THIS IS KNOWN AS THE SPIRITUAL VEIL"

And yes, i know what everyone is now thinking. Some of you think that you can hear God the Christ entity & or Jesus & even the Holy spirit & even angels. However the dark ones can & do simulate all of that as well. And scripture refers to that fact "doesn't it".

I continuously experience the above, i know of their power of the mind.

And their abilities & their desire to access a debaucherous life style through Earthlings, is the sole reason for it all.
I've been a wake up to the deception for approximately 12 years & know how they implement the discrete spiritual veil that hinders our abilities & connection to God the Father. & still I can not rid myself of it & everything else.

& that is why i will be implementing my right to sever the silver cord & leave the Earth & the flesh behind, & find my way to the Spiritual Heavens/lands.
& i will definitely be doing it as soon as my dad joins my mother in the nursing home.
And so untill then, i will keep the faith, & live life as close to "gods way of love" as i can whilst living in this mess as i know it to be.

If they have so much power, then how can you even get to God, how can you even know that you are in the presence of Christ? I've learned that they can simulate out of body experiences, you just know something is not quite right, as if there's another presence causing the experience.

Faith.. but faith I have even if just a tiny faith, I have faith, yet I have not been able to reach to God, I pray and I have nightmares.. I don't belive in taking your life just to escape this world, if faith is what you need, then no need to leave this world, all that you need can happen in this world.
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Old 12-08-2020, 01:01 PM
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If they have so much power, then how can you even get to God, how can you even know that you are in the presence of Christ? I've learned that they can simulate out of body experiences, you just know something is not quite right, as if there's another presence causing the experience.

Faith.. but faith I have even if just a tiny faith, I have faith, yet I have not been able to reach to God, I pray and I have nightmares.. I don't belive in taking your life just to escape this world, if faith is what you need, then no need to leave this world, all that you need can happen in this world.
Faith does not get a person to God. Though having a strong faith that God can be revealed to us after the life connected to the flesh. Having that faith & living a righteous moral existence & a knowledge that if indeed these dark beings are connected to us now, they will still be with us after our liberation from the flesh. & Can 100% definitely still confuse & deceive us after the liberation from the flesh.

AND, this is when mankind can end up lurking unseen around Earthlings & acting unlovingly, at the discrete suggestions from dark beings.

Below are a few passages from the revised prayer given to us from Jesus, in the Padgett Messages......
....notice the word "FAITH" & "TEMPTATIONS OF THE FLESH" & "THE EVIL ONES" and how they "CONSTANTLY SURROUND US" and endeavor to "TURN OUR THOUGHTS AWAY FROM GOD" and that GODS LOVE IS "WAITING FOR US" & that he can ("KEEP US IN THE SHADOW OF HIS LOVE")....& in this case in brackets, we can be impervious to the onslaught of the evil ones.
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That Thou will open up our souls to the inflowing of Thy love, and that then will come Thy holy spirit to bring into our souls, this, Thy love in great abundance until our souls may be transformed into the very essence of Thyself; and that there may come to us faith - such faith as will cause us to realize that we are truly Thy children and that we are one with Thee in very substance and not in image only.

Let us have such faith as will cause us to know that Thou art our Father and the bestower of every good and perfect gift, and that only we, ourselves, can prevent Thy love changing us from the mortal to the immortal.

Let us never cease to realize that Thy love is waiting for each and all of us, and that when we come to Thee with faith and earnest aspirations, Thy love will never be withholden from us.

Keep us in the shadow of Thy love every hour and moment of our lives, and help us to overcome all temptations of the flesh and the influence of the powers of the evil ones who so constantly surround us and endeavor to turn our thoughts away from Thee to the pleasures and allurements of this world.

We thank Thee for Thy love and for the possibility of receiving it, and believe that Thou art our Father - the loving Father who smiles upon us in our weakness, and is always ready to help us and take us to Thy arms of love.
UNQUOTE.

Regarding the self severance of the silver cord being a bad or undesirable thing to do...as far as i know, it is not. Though dark minded spiritual beings would have us believe that it is. Because they need Earthlings on Earth, & as many of us as possible.

Also, severing the silver cord is not taking your life, because life is of the spiritual Soul'self/mind, & is not of the brain. The brain is a non sentient & non conscious processing unit only. When you sever the cord, you simply can relocate to the spiritual Heavens or the Holy Kingdom if you have the quality of Soul that can withstand the intensities of the spiritual atmosphere therein. AND no righteous spiritual being or God minds if a person does so.
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