Is God a completely logical and unselfish being?

[kralaro]

Please share only from your direct experience(s) and/or from logic.

[iamthat]

Logically God is not a person and therefore the question does not make sense.

Peace

[HITESH SHAH]

If we are to think of God as logical unselfish entity , definitely there is lot to suggest it .But I like more his loving side where He forgets all logic and loves His creation very much overlooking the shortcomings/mistakes of His creation . This version is more suitable to common person like me .

Same way I dont think He's unselfish either . His Self is so big compared our individual self ,we can not visualize His Self interest. Only when His Self interest is preserved/nurtured that he may accede to our interests and stand behind us with His full Force. Else He may not even here our pleas .

PS- This i can claim only as a child and He may not take any offence of a child. In general popular version and reality is God is selfless/unselfish as correctly viewed by you.

[FairyCrystal]

Originally Posted by iamthat

Logically God is not a person and therefore the question does not make sense.
Peace

I agree with this.
So nr 1: God is not a person. God is also not male. That's why speaking of Source or the Divine makes more sense.

Nr 2: speaking of selfish or unselfish concerns humans that live in duality, it has no bearing whatsoever on the vast, high vibrational energy being called Source or the Divine.

As for logical, the whole ascension process is quite logical yet most don't get it. I suppose because it deviates from the carefully construed stories we've been spoonfed for a couple thousand years. That does not make it the truth.

Does that make the Divine logical? Don't know and I wonder if that even matters?
Again, personal and spiritual development is for a large part logical too. Much of it is sheer psychology although I think (could be wrong) that most don't see that.
So maybe everything is part logic, part sensing/instinct.

Like it's the instinct of any being to want to evolve. This goes for the Divine too. And it's the reason why we're here: with our growth and expansion the Divine grows and expands too as we are all part of it and thus connected to it. Even the ones that do not agree or do not understand this (yet).
The 'how do I grow & expand?' would require a certain amount of logic.

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by kralaro

Please share only from your direct experience(s) and/or from logic.

There are many Gods, which God are you referring to?. God the Father of all creation loves us all
as his children, I'm a logical thinker and I'd say God would be the same from the little that I know about God that is, yes he's unselfish as I understand it.

Amen and Praises.

utopia

[FallingLeaves]

In my view god knows all about logic and can out-pace even the best logicians... but that is not all he is.

[Miss Hepburn]

Um, I would say God is the Creator OF Logic and is Self...He is the most Logical and is The Self in all.
(Meaning completely and totally self-''ish''.)
Do humans understand God's logic? Some do, some don't.
I see Him as perfectly logical, masterfully logical - and naturally self centered since He is in the 'center' of even a particle of dust.


* kralaro - if you would like the would 'person' changed to, say, Being or anything else ...lemme know.

[utopiandreamchild]

There's no better thinkers than logical thinker's, they're calculated, mathematical and precise thinker's, geniuses.
Peace.
utopia

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

There's no better thinkers than logical thinker's, they're calculated, mathematical and precise thinker's, geniuses.

Logic will only take a person so far. Logic can be a person's greatest strength but at the same time it may be their greatest weakness, because they cannot let go of logic to discover that which lies beyond logical thinking.

Spiritual intuition gives direct knowledge, which is superior to logical understanding. Some of the greatest scientific discoveries have come through such intuition, and then logic is used to confirm these discoveries.

Peace

[kralaro]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

There are many Gods, which God are you referring to?

How can there be many Gods with capital 'G'? - I'm genuinely curious. There can be many gods, with small 'g', i.e. deities.

I'll share that which God i'm referring to:

1) Some persons have a spiritual power that whatever they say becomes true. I met a girl who when she was a child said out of anger that a particular uncle of hers will die on the 100th day from that day. Her that uncle did die on the 100th day. On the 100th day, he wasn't feeling well, the family took him to hospital, the hospital IVed him glucose. He died because of that, as it was found later that he wasn't feeling well due to undiagnosed high blood sugar and the glucose worsened that. Hinduism has stories of sadhus giving blessings or curses with their words and what they say comes about. There was a period in my life when i used to do a lot of a spiritual practice; at that time i got a power to control future with my intent, and i used that power. We just said/intended somethings. Someone else did the work of implementing them. That someone else is what i call God.

2) Neem Karoli Baba was a recent saint who did many miracles like resurrecting a dead person, giving eyesight to blind, turning water into ghee, and many more miracles. He used to talk about God, e.g. "Keep God in your heart like you keep money in the bank.", "The best service you can do is to keep your thoughts on God. Keep God in mind every minute.", etc.

3) In a [post], Miss Hepburn shared that she had an experience of God and in that post she said regarding God: (part quoting)
"
all or any thing we feel or think or do ...none of it, means a thing. Means nothing....
nothing we ask for...peace...wisdom...means nothing.
The only thing that matters is....giving Him love.
"

I think the God in 1), 2) and 3) is the same God.