Premonitions part of mediumship

[BigJohn]

....... and where can one go to verify this list?

From previous discussions, it appears that the historical record at how the word Medium was apparently first used can not be used. I would think that would be the first place to go.

And if a Medium should use some of these other 'skills', are they denounced as being a Medium and under whose authority?

Originally Posted by BigJohn

And if a Medium should use some of these other 'skills', are they denounced as being a Medium and under whose authority?

There is no authority and you can declare yourself as a medium of you so choose. I had an argument with one member who declared they were expert in mediumship because they had read the word 'telepathy' in a book by their favourite author.

There's no reason a medium can't read Tarot cards, other than personal choice or ability and sometimes mediumship abilities can 'creep into' those other skills.

[bobjob]

I'm a simple guy who follows - and has always felt comfortable following - what I learned about mediumship. My fellow adherents to the same philosophy and religion share my values but I readily acknowledge that other individuals can also be mediums without their subscribing to those values. eg natural mediums.

Peripheral issues such as psychic reading, Tarot and Oracle cards, counseling etc. do not deliver the simple message of survival or provide spirit healing. Psychics and sensitives often call themselves mediums - they can call themselves anything they like of course - but if they're not providing evidence of survival or providing spiritual healing then in my book they ain't mediums.

And when they're not communicating with individuals in spirit then they are not using mediumship. There's lttle wonder many are muddled about what mediumship means.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

There's no reason a medium can't read Tarot cards, other than personal choice or ability and
sometimes mediumship abilities can 'creep into' those other skills.

If a psychic, a medium, a housewife or an atheist wants to read my cards --they sure can. :)

[bobjob]

I wonder why it is that some psychics and sensitives are so determinedly insistent they are mediums?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

If a psychic, a medium, a housewife or an atheist wants to read my cards --they sure can. :)

Me too as long as they don't claim it's mediumship by so doing.

A medium read Tarot for me but when I checked what she was doing she said she wasn't using her mediumship when she did the reading for me.

[bobjob]

Seer, psychic, sensitive, medium......

Whatever you choose to call yourself, in retrospect premonitions can be seen to have been right, part-right or wrong. They shouldn't be part of mediumship but can justifiably be given as part or the whole of any other discipline if that's what's being promised.

Whether delivering a message based on a premonition is always justified is a tricky one. Just one definition of premonition is "...a strong feeling that something is about to happen, especially something unpleasant."

Even if one has a 100% record of premonition accuracy is it justifiable to deliver such a message? Perhaps so if it were to help or protect the individual but how many sensitives have 100% premonition accuracy one might wonder?

What is the situation if a dire premonition is given but then fails to materialise? Would it be a satisfactory situation when a person had taken action leading to negative outcomes - because someone had had a premonition?

Premonitions play no justifiable part in mediumship and shouldn't be there.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by bobjob

I wonder why it is that some psychics and sensitives are so determinedly insistent they are mediums?

I personally don't think that is true.

As for me, the definition of what is a Medium has been changed by some from what it appears as to how it was originally used and I don't think the change was for the better.

As for me, if you look at the way the word Medium is used by some, I come away with the feeling that psychics and sensitives are 'lower vibrations' whereas Mediums are 'higher vibrations'. As for me, 'higher or lower vibrations' have no bearing on the matter. What matters is who can 'deliver' better then the other (s).

If you examine the historical 'rapping Mediums' of the late 1840's, as far as I am concerned, they resonate very much with somebody trying to use a Pendulum of today. To me, the changing of the meaning of words such as how Mediums were first used has, as far as I am concerned, has caused many divisions especially amongst those calling themselves Spiritualists. Sorry to say, in my opinion, this appears not to be the only thing causing divisions.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by bobjob

EXCERPT
Seer, psychic, sensitive, medium......
Whatever you choose to call yourself, in retrospect premonitions can be seen to have been right, part-right or wrong. They shouldn't be part of mediumship but can justifiably be given as part or the whole of any other discipline if that's what's being promised.

When the Fox family began communicating with what they later found out was a Spirit, did premonition initially play a major role in that development?

After they became 'rapping Mediums', did their Mediumship provide any 'messages to others from the Spirit to prove there was life after death'?

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

When the Fox family began communicating with what they later found out was a Spirit, did premonition initially play a major role in that development?

Don't know - history is your major. You tell us.

After they became 'rapping Mediums', did their Mediumship provide any 'messages to others from the Spirit to prove there was life after death'?

Don't know - history is your major. You tell us.

I write mostly about the present.