The origin and hierarchy of angels

[Angel lite plus]

Originally Posted by shoni7510

Suppose an angel and a human being happened to incarnate at the same time and they cross-breed, can that result in an earth angel, human-angel or Angel-human or all of the above?

That won't happen. Angels can make us aware of some idea. Most of
the time humans agree. But the universe is a big place. There are
different kinds of angels.

What you are calling cross-breeding is nothing more than an
elaborate agreement, meaning you believe in something because
of its aesthetics. The forms an angel uses.

But you are the one who ultimately decides what road to
take. You can believe in the concepts, sure, but it usually takes
some thinking to unite the ideas of different angels.

Cross-breeding is not really cross-breeding, as it happens only on
mental levels. On a biological level, most of the time, no. The latter
depends on the nature of the universe.

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by shoni7510

Suppose an angel and a human being happened to incarnate at the same time and they cross-breed, can that result in an earth angel, human-angel or Angel-human or all of the above?

I think, you try to compare fruit with apples.
If we as angelics incarnate, we are first and foremost human.

Other humans souls could be Fae, Elohim, come from a monad, or out of the planetary consciousness stream (Logos) or as most come from an oversoul.
What I can say from experience, and this has been confirmed by my people,

A human with an angelic soul will almost never marry another human with an angelic background. They will have one child with an angelic background, all others, if there are any, have a different background.

[Rah nam]

Again, a spirit, and it does not matter what their soul background is, attaches to the human form.
How can a spirit/soul attached to a human body procreate with it?
Procreation only happens on this level of existence.

[Angel lite plus]

Originally Posted by shoni7510

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It is strictly that when you are constraining your mental vehicle. This
means you are limiting the concept of procreation within physical
boundaries. When consciousness is expanded, boundaries are
projected further out into conceptual levels.

You were talking about crossbreeding before. What you've actually done
when asking the question if humans and angels can crossbreed, is
crossbreeding itself, meaning you've mixed two concepts out of two
different subcultures.

Crossbreeding is done between aliens and humans, not angels and
humans. So if you're talking about angels and humans, you should've
asked: "Can angels and humans become one? " Now i said "you should",
but only if you're to remain grounded.

You probably picked up the term "crossbreeding" when reading
about aliens and UFOs. The "becoming one" i mentioned however,
has some numerical and kabbalistic connotations, as do Angels.

Aliens control because they operate within a hive mind.
Angels inspire us by unifying choirs in Yetzirah. These are two different things
for humans on earth. So if a human procreates with an angel, it means
he/she is passionate about some idea, i hope.

[UlfHedinn]

Originally Posted by Angel lite plus

You were talking about crossbreeding before. What you've actually done
when asking the question if humans and angels can crossbreed, is
crossbreeding itself, meaning you've mixed two concepts out of two
different subcultures.

Crossbreeding is done between aliens and humans, not angels and
humans. So if you're talking about angels and humans, you should've
asked: "Can angels and humans become one? " Now i said "you should",

This is perhaps a somewhat sticky question. The notion of a human and an angel "interbreeding" sounds nonsensical at first. Yet... God supposedly got Mary pregnant. What if he commanded one of his angels to do something similar to a mortal woman? So perhaps we could see a spiritual angel approaching a physical woman and causing her to become pregnant, perhaps with a child bearing the traits of the angel whom God chose to send on this mission.

Now honestly that sounds nonsensical even to I who suggest it, yet I can't quite discount the general possibility.

[Angel lite plus]

Originally Posted by UlfHedinn

God supposedly got Mary pregnant. What if he commanded one of his angels to do something similar to a mortal woman? So perhaps we could see a spiritual angel approaching a physical woman and causing her to become pregnant, perhaps with a child bearing the traits of the angel whom God chose to send on this mission.

Now honestly that sounds nonsensical even to I who suggest it, yet I can't quite discount the general possibility.

You'll find something similar in Genesis 6:2,

...and the angels descended (fell) on the earth and
they saw that the daughters of men were fair,
and they took them as wives...

I don't think that is true. I would change it into something like,

...and the liberated spirits incarnated into those
connected to earth, into them one with god,
and they saw there was pain and suffering, this for
them to heal...


Regarding the pregnancy of Mary, It is not possible.

Interpretation however, induces a dissociated state, if
not only temporary. But seeing the issue through the
lens of the eternal now, i am denying it completely.

Even if the idea of evolution and the function of sexual
intercourse is invoked, there is metaphor and
consciousness on several levels simultaneously. And if
just only one of those layers implies intercourse, i would
deny it again, in the now.

[UlfHedinn]

Originally Posted by Angel lite plus

You'll find something similar in Genesis 6:2,

...and the angels descended (fell) on the earth and
they saw that the daughters of men were fair,
and they took them as wives...

I was actually thinking about that verse as I made my post, except I had misremembered it as "giants" taking daughters of men as wives... but it was angels doing so, and their descendants were the "giants". So this might be an example of "angels breeding with humans".

Though when you mention "intercourse", I'm not entirely sure how that would work. Even if there are male and female spiritual entities, the sex organs are very much a physical thing. So perhaps an angel might use will power to generate specific genetic data in an ovum.

[shoni7510]

I seem to recall that Genesis 6 you quoted in my Bible it said children of God saw daughters of men and took them and they bore them children called Nephilim or giants.

[shoni7510]

The pregnant Mary and God or the so called immaculate conception, I imagine anything is possible. After all a human baby was born as a result.

[Miss Hepburn]

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