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Old 21-12-2021, 08:24 AM
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Did the article say who wrote it?
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Old 21-12-2021, 10:43 AM
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@eninn I'm sorry but that is the worse bag of excuses for the validation of a religious book I've ever heard
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Old 21-12-2021, 11:53 AM
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https://www.isaandislam.com/al-quran...never-changed/

Everyone believes what they want to believe.....
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Old 21-12-2021, 03:32 PM
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... through the intermediary of the Angel Gabriel

"... Muhammad as the author of the Qur'an... How could a man, from being illiterate.... How could he then pronounce truths of a scientific nature that no other human being could possibly have developed at that time, and all this without once making the slightest error in his pronouncement on the subject?"
Maurice Bucaille, THE BIBLE, THE QUR'AN AND SCIENCE, 1978, p. 125.
Gabriel, eh? Muhammad was illiterate?
Thank you, I found your post very informative.

(Not that it was a validation..but I understand that was the best ya got. And I do understand the
scientific things that were unknown then.)
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Being Muhammad could not read or write, makes the Qur'an stand out amongst other religious writings as something 'special'.
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Being Muhammad could not read or write, makes the Qur'an stand out amongst other religious writings as something 'special'.
I agree!! And also the scientific info in there.
Does everyone know that there is nothing about virgins offered to anyone in Heaven?
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''Les manuscrits de la mer Morte sont une collection de manuscrits anciens de la Bible juive.''
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In case the reason for the deletion did not show up: English only here. Also, rem no copy/pastes more than 2-3 sentences.


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Old 21-12-2021, 06:24 PM
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Zayd ibn Thabit composed the Quran in the order of verses told by Prophet Muhammed. Secondly, he re-wrote it at the urge of Caliph Abu Bakr. And, finally, he re-compiled the Holy book in its present form when Uthman was the Caliph (3rd). At the time when Prophet Muhammed was alive, Zayd wrote the verses in the order of the dates. But, the final version was changed to a different order rather than the chronological order of their transmission. The final version was arranged in the order of each topic. I mean the verses of one single topic were arranged sequentially one after another although there were verses on other topics in between many of these verses. This is what Wikipedia says:

“During the time of Uthman
, by which time Islam had spread far and wide, differences in reading the Quran in different dialects of Arabic language became obvious. A group of companions, headed by Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman
, who was then stationed in Iraq

, came to Uthman and urged him to "save the Muslim ummah before they differ about the Quran".

“Uthman obtained the manuscript of the Quran from Hafsah
and again summoned the leading authority, Zayd ibn Thabit, and some other companions to make copies of it.
Zayd was put in charge of the task. The style of Arabic dialect used was that of the Quraish

tribe. Hence this style was emphasized over all others”.

“Zaid and other Companions prepared five copies. One of these was sent to every Muslim province with the order that all other Quranic materials, whether fragmentary or complete copies, be burnt. When standard copies were made and were widely available to the Muslim community everywhere, then all other material was burnt voluntarily by Muslim communities themselves. This was important in order to eliminate variations or differences in the dialect from the standard text of the Quran. The Caliph
Uthman kept a copy for himself and returned the original manuscript to Hafsah



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