Physics suggests that the future has already happened

[LPC]

This is hard to get your head around, but it does make you think. I'm not convinced by the physics, but some modification of our idea of free will may be necessary - e.g. we all have free will, but we have already decided what to do, even if we don't know it. Comments welcome!

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p04s2...ready-happened

[John32241]

Hi,

That divine within us makes plans to support our soul's journey. This is an energetic destination. With free will we can divert our self from an intended direction. Then our higher self does what it can to put us into circumstances which get us back on track.

John

[bobjob]

The popular teaching is that time has no meaning in the etheric dimensions - the ones said to be "real" - hence the notion of future is unimportant and inapplicable.

One might also consider that the sciences of this physical dimension have no relevance to conditions in the etheric so any consideration of our notion of future (or present and past) is unimportant (save to those who enjoy the mental exercise) and irrelevant.

[FallingLeaves]

just because there is a monet on the wall, that doesn't mean a child couldn't scribble on it with crayons. Unless of course you won't let him...

Originally Posted by bobjob

is unimportant (save to those who enjoy the mental exercise) and irrelevant.

That's the differentiated consciousness of Jungian ego talking, nothing has inherent importance or relevance of its own and both of those are attached. That's an exercise of the status that the ego seeks by holding that position of Spiritual prowess.

Since you're well-versed in mediumship, how many discussions have people had about the future with Spirit and how have they gone? Or people who have had NDEs that have talked about what will happen when they go back?

In science all of time is happening all of the time, and all of time is affecting all of time all of the time. It's all quantum. For us poor humans there is a perception of past, present and future because without it our minds would simply become unhinged. As far as I'm aware, for Spirit all of time is happening right here, right now - Spirit can experience/be conscious of the future as easily as we are conscious of the present moment.

The future hasn't happened or will happen, it's already happening.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

That's the differentiated consciousness of Jungian ego talking, nothing has inherent importance or relevance of its own and both of those are attached. That's an exercise of the status that the ego seeks by holding that position of Spiritual prowess.

Since you're well-versed in mediumship, how many discussions have people had about the future with Spirit and how have they gone?

Day to day mediumship is primarily to deliver the message of survival and discussions can't happen the way they do in this dimension. Philosophical mediumship MIGHT address what you ask with a highly spiritually-advanced spirit teacher. not my scene

Or people who have had NDEs that have talked about what will happen when they go back?

A near-death experience is only that - an experience when one appears to others to be near to death. Caution should be exercised over what is drawn from one.

In science all of time is happening all of the time, and all of time is affecting all of time all of the time.

Except time the way we experience it is absent outside of the physical.

It's all quantum.

see above

For us poor humans there is a perception of past, present and future because without it our minds would simply become unhinged.

conjecture

As far as I'm aware, for Spirit all of time is happening right here, right now -

There is no "right now" outside of time the way we experience the phenomenon.....

Spirit can experience/be conscious of the future as easily as we are conscious of the present moment.

Do you mean individuals in spirit? If so they will experience according to their personal spiritual progress. All spirits aren't at a similarly-identical point any more than we humans are at identically-similar points of progress.

The future hasn't happened or will happen, it's already happening.

Those terms are just the way we express the way we perceive our time.

[FairyCrystal]

That is quite old news to be honest.
Time isn't linear, and if memory serves, this has been scientifically proven too.
Many people in the spiritual world have spoken about different timelines for yonks, meaning the past, present, and future all exist at the same time. Also the theory that there are various futures.

This even comes up in movies and series. In Star Trek where then ended up having loads of Enterprises and they had to fix it in order to get all timelines to what they were supposed to be. Series Fringe had an alternate timeline and was a great deal about that, MiB 3 with Griffin constantly wondering "Or would this be the future where....".
And there are plenty more.

It's mind-boggling, but doesn't mean that we don't have free will. If there are loads of timelines that in a way have all already happened, there are plenty of options and it's not set in stone. What you do or choose defines which one you will experience.

[lemex]

This journey is but a process and the known elements within agreeing with both posts 2 & 3. They are not separate in the process. Suggesting the future already happened is valid meaning the entirety of a life happens and includes multiple times, not only once. There is a true self, meaning two forms at the same time. One form not affected by time and death, able to view (not live) the eternity of some other physical self until death. One form dies the other does not.

The idea we already have decided actually can be seen in (through) reincarnation as reincarnation brings not past, but from multiple lives linearly (essence) into now. Reincarnation is experience based. Reincarnation is merely now. But who does not know, the real (soul) self would because it sees the entirety of body and time. The real self sees as it does not die and operates differently. Reincarnation is the journey. Reincarnation always allows use of potential for free will (decision)/ When returning we are a little different, are we not?

The word future is a misleading word. It is not a future but another experience the real self (soul) will be aware of. Potential basically not done to be experienced through returning. So no, it has not technically already happen but more a matter of another potential that has not happened. Potential is eternal.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

just because there is a monet on the wall, that doesn't mean a child couldn't scribble on it with crayons. Unless of course you won't let him...

This is a great analogy. I love it so much.

[Guillaume]

Physics suggests that the future has already happened ...

... and the past is yet to come?

They just inverted their data charts, I'm sure.
Joking apart the future has happened but we can change it, contrary it to the past. Many people work on it actually. And some even too much, I've heard some want to attract all the good things to themselves, and let the bad stuffs to others.