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21-05-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
It all started many years ago when I became conscious OF I AM.
I did not particularly like what I was conscious of and reacted negatively.
It built up into feeling oppressed by I AM..
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When you say that do you mean you became aware of an all pervasive God or Consciousness or Presence, the Absolute, the All That Is?
I don't speak in ''I 'AM'' language. I would ask the same if you said Shakti.
Then, I realize How would someone feel negatively about this...being aware of, say, something Divine?
You don't have to answer me if it's a bother, I'll get by :) ---I just do not understand.
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21-05-2023, 02:14 PM
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No not conscious of divinity. More like conscious that reality is self conscious. It is constantly referring to itself in an 'I Am' kind of way.
When I hear the term I AM I instantly think that it is self conscious and referring to itself....
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21-05-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
No not conscious of divinity; more like conscious that reality is self conscious. It is constantly referring to itself in an 'I Am' kind of way.
When I hear the term I AM I instantly think that it is self conscious and referring to itself....
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That helps me ...a little. Thanks, Honza.
Let me dive a bit more to get this, sorry , If I'm being ''too much''.
So, is a tree, grass, the walls in your house referring to It's Self?
So the reality around you, all that you see, is aware of itself, would you say?
(Just making sure I get this).
Just to say, I often am aware of everything around as alive, breathing and conscious -(and wonderful!...
a presence of a consciousness, simple, full of well-being.)
It is comforting to say the least.
(And people could think me nuts, while I could think, ''Aw you don't perceive this? Shame'.'')
Yet - you are not aware of any divinity, do I have that right?
It makes me wonder: then what is this I AM if not the Creator/ God...whatever name.
(Remember I have only seen the covers of these I AM books .)
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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21-05-2023, 04:29 PM
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Yes you understood it right Miss H. That is how it seems to me.
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21-05-2023, 04:53 PM
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Yes you understood it right Miss H. That is how it seems to me.
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This is hard talking this way in writing....let me clarify for me...
You are saying yes to:
''So, is a tree, grass, the walls in your house referring to It's Self?
So the reality around you, all that you see, is aware of itself, would you say?
Yet - you are not aware of any divinity...''
You have never ans my questions, third time - Do you see this I AM as God, the Creator - if not, what do you see this I AM AS?
It's like pulling teeth here to get a yes or no .
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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21-05-2023, 08:30 PM
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The Humility, the Pride and the Shame….it really interests me to know the meaning this holds for you…
I read it as a cycle……the loss of humility leads to the rise of the ego and pride….pride gives birth to shame,,,,,hopefully shame will produce humility…..
Stopping the cycle becomes the challenge….
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21-05-2023, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
''So, is a tree, grass, the walls in your house referring to It's Self?
So the reality around you, all that you see, is aware of itself, would you say?
Yet - you are not aware of any divinity...''
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Yes like that.
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You have never ans my questions, third time -Do you see this I AM as God, the Creator - if not, what do you see this I AM AS?
It's like pulling teeth here to get a yes or no.
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Definitely not God the creator....more like a huge ego screaming I Am.
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21-05-2023, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Molearner
The Humility, the Pride and the Shame….it really interests me to know the meaning this holds for you…I read it as a cycle……the loss of humility leads to the rise of the ego and pride….pride gives birth to shame,,,,,hopefully shame will produce humility…..
Stopping the cycle becomes the challenge….
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It was taken from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - The Humility, The Pride and The Shame.
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22-05-2023, 12:48 AM
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Definitely not God the creator....more like a huge ego screaming I Am.
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Thanks again. :)
Now, I'm going to google the I AM...cuz I had the idea that 'I Am' came from God when he appeared to Moses
and, he asked God His name.
I must be very confused! So thanks.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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22-05-2023, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Thanks again. :)
Now, I'm going to google the I AM...
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This is my interpretation of "I am" and "I am who I am":
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...7&postcount=17
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/s...3&postcount=19
From biblehub: Verse 14. - "I AM THAT I AM. No better translation can be given of the Hebrew words. I will be that I will be" (Geddes) is more literal, but less idiomatic, since the Hebrew was the simplest possible form of the verb substantive.
Some people have a tendency to present what they don't understand as something profound ... Then others parrot them, propagating confusion.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
Last edited by inavalan : 22-05-2023 at 05:06 AM.
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