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Old 05-05-2021, 05:13 PM
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For simplicity let's consider 'Heaven' to be the idyllic state we left and then will return to after most of us pass over.
Ok..that's not Heaven to me ---but I'm cool with that.
So anything on the Other Side is considered Heaven here...ok .
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Old 05-05-2021, 06:00 PM
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Ok..that's not Heaven to me ---but I'm cool with that.
So anything on the Other Side is considered Heaven here...ok .

It's the way I've observed that some see things and it does make for simplicity even if it's not strictly accurate.....
Similarly we get 'spirit' and 'soul' used inerchangeably and even 'ghost' thrown into that mix too.

Often folk won't find anything useful in knowing the differences and insisting on one or the other can be seen as being pedantic. Folk mistake one for another but usually it doesn't matter that much.
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Old 05-05-2021, 07:15 PM
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It's the way I've observed that some see things and it does make for simplicity even if it's not strictly accurate.....
Similarly we get 'spirit' and 'soul' used inerchangeably and even 'ghost' thrown into that mix too.
I agree. I flow with it once I understand what everyone means!
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Old 06-05-2021, 10:25 AM
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I agree. I flow with it once I understand what everyone means!

I'd love to experience such a happy state of affairs even occasionally!

I'm regularly having to explain why a psychic (psychic medium) and a medium (spiritual medium) are not automatically the same thing. Every individual seems to have a different view.

Those words/terms are frequently misunderstood and misused by 'beginners' but it's not always beginners who misunderstand, something I find disappointing and surprising. When I point it out I'm often accused of wanting to apply labels. I'm then told labels constrict abilities, that sensitivities work in ways I don't understand. Politely I tell 'em they're wrong and try to move forward.....
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Old 06-05-2021, 11:25 AM
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I'd love to experience such a happy state of affairs even occasionally!
Every individual seems to have a different view.
Those words/terms are frequently misunderstood and misused by 'beginners' ...
That's the truth. Good thing I'm too self-involved to care much about their views.
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of the keys to my happiness!
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:52 PM
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That's the truth. Good thing I'm too self-involved to care much about their views.
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of the keys to my happiness!

I guess, by inference, I must care too much..... It's always been my weakness that I care about others - I should try harder to care just about me and mine.
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Old 06-05-2021, 01:58 PM
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Now, since we are probably talking about the Afterlife as Heaven...
where we hang out for awhile before it's time to come back here, hahaha, until we don't anymore,
I've known what I'll be doing since reading Anthony Borgia's communication with his friend on the Other Side. (in Life in the Unseen World)

That is, after seeing loved ones, getting the tour, talking with my Guides discussing this Life's Review, etc...
Creative ideas?
Well, I'll be finding a solitary place for meditation...getting even closer to my Father/ God! Maybe it would be easier!

Does that sound weird to people? Probably.
But why would I do much diff than what I do here!!! Why would I wanna get caught up in the Maya of the Other Side, too!
There's one Goal, as I see it.
And when I get the message to do something else, then who knows!
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:20 PM
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Now, since we are probably talking about the Afterlife as Heaven...
whe............a of the Other Side, too!
There's one Goal, as I see it.
And when I get the message to do something else, then who knows!
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As I remarked earlier, some and perhaps many see the state/place/location we are in after we pass over from life incarnate as HEAVEN. (or the afterlife, the Summerlands etc.)

I'm just passing on what I'm observing and for most discussion purposes it's close enough to what happens. Bringing in numbered levels, life-between-lives and all that stuff isn't particularly helpful to folk who often struggle to get their heads around just the notion of survival and continuing existence after death.

How things work in detail makes for interesting discussions but we don't know details for certain no matter who claims to know - other than those actually experiencing the situation. Whether all the accounts of lives-between-lives cover all the possibilities is moot.

What we will experience individually when we pass over is unknown other than as general principles. The details may vary person to person and anyone who believes they KNOW all about this stuff is misunderstanding.
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Old 06-05-2021, 07:25 PM
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...Bringing in numbered levels, life-between-lives and all that stuff isn't particularly helpful to folk who often struggle to get their heads around just the notion of survival and continuing existence after death.
How things work in detail makes for interesting discussions but we don't know details for certain no matter who claims to know - other than those actually experiencing the situation.
There is some truth in this. Until we experience physical death for ourselves then we can only speculate, and our speculations could be totally inaccurate.

However, for those of us who have no problem getting our heads around the notion that consciousness survives physical death, then there is value in trying to understand the various levels, the nature of these levels, the options available to us, the processes involved in the after-death experience.

So we create a mental model of how things might be and we modify that model as we read about other peoples' experiences. This is a map of where we might be going. After we die, the map could be very helpful as we have some idea of what we might expect. Or the map may turn out to be totally useless. But I would rather undertake this journey with some kind of map as opposed to having no map at all.

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Old 06-05-2021, 08:37 PM
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There is some truth in this. Until we experience physical death for ourselves then we can only speculate, and our speculations could be totally inaccurate.
I specialise - I tell the truth and not some truth.

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However, for those of us who have no problem getting our heads around the notion that consciousness survives physical death, then there is value in trying to understand the various levels, the nature of these levels, the options available to us, the processes involved in the after-death experience.
My earlier postings made clear my approach was limited to simple issues. Those like myself may wish to consider other issues in depth but they're separate from what I had been writing about. They go far beyond the simple notion of survival.

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So we create a mental model of how things might be and we modify that model as we read about other peoples' experiences. This is a map of where we might be going. After we die, the map could be very helpful as we have some idea of what we might expect. Or the map may turn out to be totally useless. But I would rather undertake this journey with some kind of map as opposed to having no map at all. Peace

It's my preference also but mostly out of curiosity as I'm certain there's no need for me to know any of it for myself. It should be kept in mind that such understanding may anyway be stored in our psyche. Returning to the etheric will re-acquaint us with that knowledge.
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