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Old 09-09-2014, 01:13 AM
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Book1 Pi-Space >( *..* )< 'time'

EMRadiation > photonic particle.......

Gravity > gravitonic particle( presumed at ultra-micro scales of existence )

Ultra-micro does not equal 1Dimensional.

At best, we approach a 2D existence with the inside-outing of a tetra(4)hedron, a the half-way point--- as subdivide triangle membreane plane --- between being inside-outed or outside-outed.

A tetra(4)hedron at its half-way inside-out existence, is likened to a 2D membrane, but we me say that is true of it also when not half-way i.e. the 3D is just warpage--- curvature ---of the 2D membrane.

If it osscillates between inside-out and out-side out, then we observe 3D existence i.e. motion/energy/physical/vibes/vibrations etc.....

What is moving? Integral quantum sets of nodal vertexial events, that we observe and map as integral quantum sets of vectorial lines-of-existence events.

Aka a fuzzy cloud of events or mathematically as probablity events to ultra-micro in size and energy for us to map exactly. imho

Pi-Space >( ** )< 'Time'

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Old 09-09-2014, 01:23 PM
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Deterministically.


Resonance only increases amplitude if force is exerted on the system. Energy is conserved.



Chaos theory is interesting because even though any particular prediction is very hard to make, the overall system produces predictable patterns...

Energy is the ability to do work. Force = Mass x acc. Work = force x distance. Energy/work is always conserved. The force that is applied is the plucking of the fabric which creates the displacement of the string (energy is conserved as you pass energy to the string by force and displacement). The vibrations are felt everywhere throughout the fabric. The waves transfer energy over a plane. The wave is felt by something at a distance and if it has the same natural frequency, it will resonate creating larger amplitude. Work=force x dist. Therefore the effect magnifies somewhere else creating a butterfly effect where a large amount of force with small amplitude on a system creates a larger amount of amplitude in exchange of small force somewhere else through resonance. Energy is conserved but the increase of amplitude displacement creates a larger effect.

Example:
1. shoot acoustic sounds at a plane of glass with the same natural frequency and it will resonate until it shatters (opera singer breaking glass)
2. Suspension bridge being slammed with string winds at a constant frequency that mimicks the bridges natural frequency causing resonance. Bridges sways exponentially until collapse (Golden Gate Bridge)


Both examples have two locations. The initial disturbance that travels via wave in the fabric of space time to a different location, causing resonance, and then a larger energy outcome
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:30 PM
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1D Strings do not exist.

Turn a 3D tetra(4)hedron inside-out, via one of its vertexes going through its diametrically opposite openings, and we the closet scenario we know of to 2D existent reality, i.e. when the tetra(4)hedron is half-way to turning-itself inside-out, the vertex is lying on 2D plane defined by three other vertexes.

Pluck a string/chord ergo a strut on geodesic tensegrity dome-like structure, and because geodesic domes are the most integral structures, that vibration of the plucked string/chord/strut is felt every where on the dome.

A dome is convex-- positive curvature ---integral structure.

One of the posters here show animated graphic for the 5D? membrane defined by string theory and known as Calau Yabo or something like that. It has negative curvature ergo it is more liken to a torus--- ex see a doughnut ---.

Bucky Fuller discovered geodesic domes and further the ideas of tensegrity.

His 3D polyehdral jitterbug--- aka vector flexor --- toy folds in to many exotic shapes that include positive curvature and negative curvature tho many of these exotic shapes are not shown by Fullers explorations below in link.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f6008.html

and

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...igs/f6108.html

Fullers Jitterbug also folds into the EM-radiation double-sine wave configuration. There is no other hand-held toy that folds into so many differ exotic configurations as well as turning itself inside-out.

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1d does exist. Guitar string exists in 1D for example (the acoustic sounds travel away from the string at a higher dimension but the string itself is 1D). When studying vibrations or modern controls, the theory is taught initially as a 1D case inorder to simplify the understanding. When we study light, we study it as a single photon ray which is 1D (it may oscillate in 3D but the trajectory is 1D) (electron beam is 1D). The combination of light rays creates the 3D space time effect. 2D being a flat plane like a bed sheet. 3d being space time. Infinite dimensions exist which is being proven through quantum physics. The 1D "string theory" is just an easier way of explaining it. You seem to have a deeper understanding of the higher dimensions.
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Energy is the ability to do work. Force = Mass x acc. Work = force x distance. Energy/work is always conserved. The force that is applied is the plucking of the fabric which creates the displacement of the string (energy is conserved as you pass energy to the string by force and displacement). The vibrations are felt everywhere throughout the fabric. The waves transfer energy over a plane. The wave is felt by something at a distance and if it has the same natural frequency, it will resonate creating larger amplitude. Work=force x dist. Therefore the effect magnifies somewhere else creating a butterfly effect where a large amount of force with small amplitude on a system creates a larger amount of amplitude in exchange of small force somewhere else through resonance. Energy is conserved but the increase of amplitude displacement creates a larger effect.

Example:
1. shoot acoustic sounds at a plane of glass with the same natural frequency and it will resonate until it shatters (opera singer breaking glass)
2. Suspension bridge being slammed with string winds at a constant frequency that mimicks the bridges natural frequency causing resonance. Bridges sways exponentially until collapse (Golden Gate Bridge)


Both examples have two locations. The initial disturbance that travels via wave in the fabric of space time to a different location, causing resonance, and then a larger energy outcome

I think it transfers action/reaction (force accelerating mass) via molecules in the atmosphere.
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1d does exist. Guitar string exists in 1D for example (the acoustic sounds travel away from the string at a higher dimension but the string itself is 1D).

Guitar strings are 3 dimensional.

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When studying vibrations or modern controls, the theory is taught initially as a 1D case inorder to simplify the understanding. When we study light, we study it as a single photon ray which is 1D (it may oscillate in 3D but the trajectory is 1D) (electron beam is 1D). The combination of light rays creates the 3D space time effect. 2D being a flat plane like a bed sheet. 3d being space time. Infinite dimensions exist which is being proven through quantum physics. The 1D "string theory" is just an easier way of explaining it. You seem to have a deeper understanding of the higher dimensions.

It was said that an electron was a point like particle, hence moves in 1D, which was fine for particle physics, but completely stupid for gravity, so string theory says electrons (and all particles including gravitons) are actually strings, which gives them a discrete size (albeit tiny). That explains particles like electrons adequately, and it also allows for the theoretical but elusive graviton.
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I think it transfers action/reaction (force accelerating mass) via molecules in the atmosphere.

But what about in empty space? There are no molecules in space or a vacuum but the same string theory still applies. It's what makes up the atoms which is the fabric or string (subatomic particles- which aren't particles at all but are wave functions that collapse into a atom). there is something deeper then what is physical. It's the subatomic "god particle" (Higgs boson) that exists in the deeper reality. The god particle can exist at the same time in multiple locations, jumps from one location to the next, and is completely unpredictable will physical laws. it's what every atom in this universe is composed of. It forms a fabric that connects us all to a higher conscienceness and we are all connected too whether we chose to listen or not. It's is a medium where signals exist in a wave form and can travel from one location to the next. It resonates when similar frequencies react. It the fabric that gives life something to attach too. It's where our conscienceness exists and never dies. All reactions end in equilibrium because the unstable wave of excess energy has collapsed into its stable state.

The god particle is responsible for the Big Bang. Continuely expanding then contracting over trillions of years. Our universe is expanding outward and the farther it expands, the more god particle or fabric fills the space. When the right amount of this fabric fill the void, there will be a violent collapse and another Big Bang.
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But what about in empty space? There are no molecules in space or a vacuum but the same string theory still applies. It's what makes up the atoms which is the fabric or string (subatomic particles- which aren't particles at all but are wave functions that collapse into a atom). there is something deeper then what is physical. It's the subatomic "god particle" (Higgs boson) that exists in the deeper reality. The god particle can exist at the same time in multiple locations, jumps from one location to the next, and is completely unpredictable will physical laws. it's what every atom in this universe is composed of. It forms a fabric that connects us all to a higher conscienceness and we are all connected too whether we chose to listen or not. It's is a medium where signals exist in a wave form and can travel from one location to the next. It resonates when similar frequencies react. It the fabric that gives life something to attach too. It's where our consciencness exists and never dies. All reactions end in equilibrium because the unstable wave of excess energy has collapsed into its stable state.

The god particle is responsible for the Big Bang. Continuely expanding then contracting over trillions of years. Our universe is expanding outward and the farther it expands, the more god particle or fabric fills the space. When the right amount of this fabric fill the void, there will be a violent collapse and another Big Bang.

Since Hubble Telescope revealed the expansion of the universe is accelerating, not slowing down, there's no reason to believe there will be a collapse.

As I understand it, Higgs Bosons gives mass to particles that interact with them. Massless particles do not interact with them. The Higgs Field is made up of countless Higgs Boson, which are localised excitions of the field itself. The Higgs Field permeates the entire universe.

In field theory there is a field for all the particles, like an electron field a photon field and so on, all of which permeate the universe, so all these particles would exist in the absence of the Higgs Field, but they'd be massless, and hence travel at c.

So what about empty space? Where there are no excitations in the field (or fields) there is empty space, I suppose. I think field theory is something to do with the standard model... which doesn't explain everything.

We do have to consider consciousness to be the fundamental property of the universe simply because we take it that there is a universe by virtue of the perception of it. I.e. there has to be consciousness in order to know that there is a universe in the first place.
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Book1 All For One and One For All--space-31>(**)<24--'time'

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Gem--}Since Hubble Telescope revealed the expansion of the universe is accelerating, not slowing down, there's no reason to believe there will be a collapse.

Gravity is the "reason" tho that is not universally accepted conclusion, and it is only a varible for multiverse scenarios, where one local universe is expanding and another contracting--- within a finite set of local universe's.

Gravities myteriously convergent, contractively pulling-IN force is the essence of Universe. imho

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True empty--- non-occupied space --- is deduced from rational common sense logic, that, we live in a finite Universe of occupied space ergo all that exists outside/beyond is macro-infinite non-occupied( truly empty ) space.

Space-31 >(**)< 24-'time'

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Since Hubble Telescope revealed the expansion of the universe is accelerating, not slowing down, there's no reason to believe there will be a collapse.

As I understand it, Higgs Bosons gives mass to particles that interact with them. Massless particles do not interact with them. The Higgs Field is made up of countless Higgs Boson, which are localised excitions of the field itself. The Higgs Field permeates the entire universe.

In field theory there is a field for all the particles, like an electron field a photon field and so on, all of which permeate the universe, so all these particles would exist in the absence of the Higgs Field, but they'd be massless, and hence travel at c.

So what about empty space? Where there are no excitations in the field (or fields) there is empty space, I suppose. I think field theory is something to do with the standard model... which doesn't explain everything.

We do have to consider consciousness to be the fundamental property of the universe simply because we take it that there is a universe by virtue of the perception of it. I.e. there has to be consciousness in order to know that there is a universe in the first place.


Yes the universe is accelerating outward. If you relate this phenomena to any other sequence of oscillating events, it will oscillate at a frequency(similar to a pendulum). An oscillating wave displacement over time will accelerate upward then slow down and accelerate back downward and then repeat another cycle. This would mean that the universe is currently accelerating outwards and will eventually slow down and accelerate back the other way. Stephen hawking recently made this prediction and related it to the god particle effect. If this prediction is correct, then this would explain what happened before the Big Bang and the paradigm of how far the universe can actually expand.

The god particle fills empty space as the universe expands. Once there is enough empty space the universe will feel a pull in the opposite direction causing a slow down and acceleration to a collapse and then another Big Bang. I would recommend checking out Stephen hawkings prediction that "the god particle will destroy the universe". It's a very interesting way of looking at it and is currently, in my mind, the best explanation of what lies ahead.
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Gravity is the "reason" tho that is not universally accepted conclusion, and it is only a varible for multiverse scenarios, where one local universe is expanding and another contracting--- within a finite set of local universe's.

Gravities myteriously convergent, contractively pulling-IN force is the essence of Universe. imho



True empty--- non-occupied space --- is deduced from rational common sense logic, that, we live in a finite Universe of occupied space ergo all that exists outside/beyond is macro-infinite non-occupied( truly empty ) space.

Space-31 >(**)< 24-'time'

imho r6

Light is emitted from one electron and it arrives at another electron... from the perspective of the photon, that journey takes no time. The departure and the arrival is simultaneous. It goes to follow that since it takes no time to go from a to b, it also takes no time to go to c or d or e or f, and therefore, a photon is everywhere at once or the universe is sizeless. Our observation of time or distance is the analysis of the relationship between massive objects... and speed depends on an arbitrary point of reference. All motion is relative, but light is moving at the same speed relative to all reference points, as it must, because if we chose a photon as a point of reference, everything would arrive there simultaneously, or there would be no distance, and the universe would be point like.
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