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Old 24-05-2021, 03:28 AM
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When one has an NDE event happen that event is what is happening to them in this lifetime I do not feel it ties into the lifetimes your going to have going forwards. While in rare cases there can be a Soul transfer happen where the Soul you had leaves and a new one has to take that place so that you live on, it does not I feel effect whom you are to be in the next life.

Many that have the traditional tunnel and light NDE experience want to stay in that place as it feels peaceful, yet they feel they are sent back. To complete this life time. For what reason plays out as they live this life.

I have had a NDE event but it was for a much different reason and in mine I had the choice to make changes and come back or die there. I came back and made changes in my life.

I have recall of many past lives and not all were nice or easy but I have no regrets on then being a part of my path.

In this life I so feel that from the moment of conception I wanted out of coming to this life. There is a time line of events that should have taken me our of the picture but did not. Then the thoughts of taking my life, and the NDE but here I am today.

I might not want to come back again into a life, but I do not fear doing so. I feel that I have walked a good path in this lifetime and that will be taken into consideration for what is to come.

Too what recall we have is fleeting not full on memories more flashes and that is not a bad thing.

We might have a bad life, or should I say we might feel we have a bad life but we always have that opportunity to make small changes that lead to big changes over time. We can deal with most things life hands us, as it is life.

I would take a look at life, as being a blessing on what you can make of it.

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Old 24-05-2021, 01:39 PM
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This thread is about reincarnation being frightening so I find it difficult to link something so very specific - but as yet unsupported - to the general picture of concern about returning for a further life or further lives......

For some, perhaps many or even most of us, there is no recall of previous lives, always assuming we have had them. I do accept however that some individuals feel sure they know about lives they've experienced. They can't prove that's the case but we can't prove it's not so such feelings are strictly personal and relevant primarily, if not exclusively, to the individual having them.

It's somewhat similar to personal confidence about survival beyond death. There's no actual proof of it although there is abundant evidence that's the case. But neither can anyone prove that survival doesn't occur. Those who are confident know within themselves and perhaps it's similar for individuals who have a similar level of confidence about their own previous lives?

The upshot of these situations is that such personal certainty may still not help reassure someone who rejects either notion. BUT those open enough may wish to consider these accounts along with those coming from others to see which ones appeal to their reason.
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Old 25-05-2021, 02:48 PM
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If you get lucky, your fears of the rebirth should dissipate.

So how to get lucky?

For this you may want to practice humility. Humble people are generally lucky.

Loving God also gives luck.

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Old 27-05-2021, 12:21 PM
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Do you believe there is a soul for each individual that moves from body to body through each passing life and thereby brings the seeds of karma with them? To me, it seems that if there is no soul, then each newborn can't carry with them the seeds of past karma. They would just be the recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors.
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Old 27-05-2021, 12:33 PM
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Do you believe there is a soul for each individual that moves......... just be the recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors.
I describe matters differently......

The soul (or spirit) of each individual animates her/his physical body, the body in which (s)he experiences life as an incarnate. If there is no soul/spirit then there can be no animation of a body - bodies without souls is a fanciful notion. And it doesn't matter how many lives, how much karma there is claimed to be. (whatever that means)

I don't understand what's meant by (quote) "......recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors." but in the philosophy that guides me personal responsibility is all. One's predecessors have nothing to do with one's personal responsibility in life.
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Old 03-06-2021, 06:42 PM
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Hi.

I've been feeling a bit better these last few weeks. Still feeling very anxious about some things.

I think my version of the afterlife is still the best.

I look at it like this. There is an infinite number of universes. Out there some species must have found a way to control their universe. According to even atheists like Carl Sagan that is possible.

Soooo with this in mind one of these species may have created a pocket dimension that wraps itself around their own and takes the minds of everyone who dies out of their body at the moment of death and traps them there.

They get to reunite with their families, enjoy a version of heaven for a while and then they get to relive their old life, but in a better way. Free of any tragedies, they get to choose their lives etc, alongside their loved ones and others. This process then repeats forever.

These aliens however find a way for this dimension to replicate and it produces an infinite number of copies that then attach themselves to every universe.

That to me would be the best afterlife and I suppose it is possible. Who knows maybe these aliens went back and created the first universe that spawned all the others.

I guess you would call these aliens god. When you think about it god is an alien anyway. He is a creature that exists from outside our earth, reality, so technically that is an alien.

Since according the sliding scale of civilisations the highest level of civilisations would be indistinguishable from gods and dieties, maybe science and religion can be reconciled.

I'm also sorry about calling Eben Alexander a charlatan. I heard Sam Harris and his relative say bad things about him, but it seems they were being a bit too harsh on him. At the very least I think he believes what he is saying. That of course sadly isn't proof it is real.
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:25 PM
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I believe reincarnation happens but I don't see it as a mechanistic process or one in which we are forced to incarnate against our will or it being "the only game in town."

I see all consciousness as being on a path of growth/expansion towards greater levels of love and awareness. Incarnating into physical bodies is one path available for growth.

I believe there are many possibilities for incarnating physically in other civilizations on other planets. Some places we can incarnate are easier than others due to various levels of consciousness of the civilizations we can be born into and the level of development of the physical bodies we incarnate into.

I believe we have chosen to incarnate and were not forced to. From the perspective of an eternal soul, a lifetime might be comparable to the blink of an eye or a brief dream after dozing off for a few seconds, any suffering might be perceived as insignificant, and pain/difficulty might be seen as a catalyst and opportunity for growth of consciousness.

When I think about the difficulty of my childhood and the pain along the way, I definitely think, "There's no way I want to go through that again."

But I also believe that I planned the broad strokes of this life and chose to incarnate knowing what was ahead. So while I might not want to return now, I can't say that I'll feel the same way after this lifetime is over and I can once again see the bigger picture.

Again, though, I don't believe we are forced to be here, so think we can choose to not return and opt for other paths. Or choose to incarnate into an easier setting (whether that's on Earth or somewhere else).
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Old 03-06-2021, 08:26 PM
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What about the incarnation of guts and organs and the brain are they apart of the ‘true nature’ true desire of an incarnation? That means We are somewhat stuck in the past.... definitely, there could be a true choice due to the “death” keys ;but is it a true plan or essence??
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:48 PM
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Hi.
I've been feeling a bit better these last few weeks. Still feeling very anxious about some things.
I think my version of the afterlife is still the best.
I feel glad and am relieved to hear that you've "been feeling a bit better these last few weeks" and that, at this point in your life, you have discovered a "version of the afterlife (that) is still the best" for you.

I hope that you keep getting better and better as well as less and less anxious.
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