Reincarnation scares me

[Still_Waters]

QUOTE 44 EXCERPT:

Originally Posted by bobjob

I heed the guidance of communicators I see as spiritually-advanced rather than the words of an incarnate.

What has been communicated to you on these subjects by the spiritually-advanced beings whom you have met?

Like yourself, I too was skeptical of such things ... until I met extraordinary beings throughout the world and saw such things with my own eyes. When one has direct experiences, all doubts vanish. One simply states what one knows and leaves it up to others to do what they wish with the information (if anything).

As for references, I specifically chose references that are well documented so that others can check them out if they care to do so. The vast majority of such experiences, however, are not documented in books as such beings do not "perform" for the masses. It is well said that "miracles" are rarely performed without a trace of ego.

There is nothing more that I can add at this time.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by Still_Waters

QUOTE 44 EXCERPT:
What has been communicated to you on these subjects by the spiritually-advanced beings whom you have met?
Like yourself, I too was skeptical of such things ... until I met extraordinary beings throughout the world and saw such things with my own eyes. ...

I think you may be misunderstanding my position. May I help?

I don't see myself as sceptical concerning reincarnation not do I have doubts about its veracity - only about other folk's interpretations. If I've expressed myself clumsily in the past then I apologise.

There really is no need to try to explain to me why you're persuaded the way you are. I'm perfectly happy to accept you've found ideas that appeal to you.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by PureEvil760

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How do you know she is who you claim her to be?

Originally Posted by bobjob

How do you know she is who you claim her to be?

It's kind of like how you know grass is green.
So imagine someone asking you how you know grass is green.. it just is.
I'm just shown these things, but Jesus' inner circle doesn't need people's belief to operate. Belief benefits them, not us.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by PureEvil760

It's kind of like how you know grass is green.

So imagine someone asking you how you know grass is green.. it just is.

hmmm.... That analogy doesn't work for me but I accept that's how you see it.

[Lynn]

Hello

When one has an NDE event happen that event is what is happening to them in this lifetime I do not feel it ties into the lifetimes your going to have going forwards. While in rare cases there can be a Soul transfer happen where the Soul you had leaves and a new one has to take that place so that you live on, it does not I feel effect whom you are to be in the next life.

Many that have the traditional tunnel and light NDE experience want to stay in that place as it feels peaceful, yet they feel they are sent back. To complete this life time. For what reason plays out as they live this life.

I have had a NDE event but it was for a much different reason and in mine I had the choice to make changes and come back or die there. I came back and made changes in my life.

I have recall of many past lives and not all were nice or easy but I have no regrets on then being a part of my path.

In this life I so feel that from the moment of conception I wanted out of coming to this life. There is a time line of events that should have taken me our of the picture but did not. Then the thoughts of taking my life, and the NDE but here I am today.

I might not want to come back again into a life, but I do not fear doing so. I feel that I have walked a good path in this lifetime and that will be taken into consideration for what is to come.

Too what recall we have is fleeting not full on memories more flashes and that is not a bad thing.

We might have a bad life, or should I say we might feel we have a bad life but we always have that opportunity to make small changes that lead to big changes over time. We can deal with most things life hands us, as it is life.

I would take a look at life, as being a blessing on what you can make of it.

Lynn

[bobjob]

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This thread is about reincarnation being frightening so I find it difficult to link something so very specific - but as yet unsupported - to the general picture of concern about returning for a further life or further lives......

For some, perhaps many or even most of us, there is no recall of previous lives, always assuming we have had them. I do accept however that some individuals feel sure they know about lives they've experienced. They can't prove that's the case but we can't prove it's not so such feelings are strictly personal and relevant primarily, if not exclusively, to the individual having them.

It's somewhat similar to personal confidence about survival beyond death. There's no actual proof of it although there is abundant evidence that's the case. But neither can anyone prove that survival doesn't occur. Those who are confident know within themselves and perhaps it's similar for individuals who have a similar level of confidence about their own previous lives?

The upshot of these situations is that such personal certainty may still not help reassure someone who rejects either notion. BUT those open enough may wish to consider these accounts along with those coming from others to see which ones appeal to their reason.

[green1]

If you get lucky, your fears of the rebirth should dissipate.

So how to get lucky?

For this you may want to practice humility. Humble people are generally lucky.

Loving God also gives luck.

[mistybelle]

Do you believe there is a soul for each individual that moves from body to body through each passing life and thereby brings the seeds of karma with them? To me, it seems that if there is no soul, then each newborn can't carry with them the seeds of past karma. They would just be the recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors.

[bobjob]

Originally Posted by mistybelle

Do you believe there is a soul for each individual that moves......... just be the recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors.

I describe matters differently......

The soul (or spirit) of each individual animates her/his physical body, the body in which (s)he experiences life as an incarnate. If there is no soul/spirit then there can be no animation of a body - bodies without souls is a fanciful notion. And it doesn't matter how many lives, how much karma there is claimed to be. (whatever that means)

I don't understand what's meant by (quote) "......recipients of karma left behind by their predecessors." but in the philosophy that guides me personal responsibility is all. One's predecessors have nothing to do with one's personal responsibility in life.