How would you describe "Hell'

[Vince]

I personally don't believe in it. I'm reading a fun little book titled 'Hell and Damnation: A Sinner's Guide to Eternal Torment' by Marq de Villiers. Picked it up because- even if it's not something I think is real- it's such a fascinating concept. So many systems of belief have their own "hells", and I'd love to hear how different users here would choose to define it.
Does hell look like Betty Boop: 'Red Hot Mama'? does it look like a black experience-less pit of nothing, or does it look like a place of suffering that helps a soul better itself, forgive itself, and eventually ascend?

[iamthat]

My opinion is that after the physical body dies we go to a place which corresponds to our own vibration, surrounded by others of similar vibration. For some, this could be one of the lower astral realms which could be considered a form of Hell, a gloomy unpleasant place filled with despair, or a dark place filled with hatred and violence. Like all the astral planes, these are the creations of human thoughts and emotions.

How long do people stay in such places? Until they have had enough and start to look for a way out. This means they have to raise their vibrations and become receptive to higher energies.

Peace

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by iamthat

My opinion is that after the physical body dies we go to a place which corresponds to our own vibration, surrounded by others of similar vibration. For some, this could be one of the lower astral realms which could be considered a form of Hell, a gloomy unpleasant place filled with despair, or a dark place filled with hatred and violence. Like all the astral planes, these are the creations of human thoughts and emotions.

How long do people stay in such places? Until they have had enough and start to look for a way out. This means they have to raise their vibrations and become receptive to higher energies.

Peace

I thought this was a good way to put it.

[Native spirit]

I Would tottally agree with what Iamthat has said



Namaste

Originally Posted by Native spirit

I Would tottally agree with what Iamthat has said



Namaste

Whatever you agree with (because I haven't read thread) you sent at 11:11..... So got to mean something....

[one-light]

Originally Posted by iamthat

My opinion is that after the physical body dies we go to a place which corresponds to our own vibration, surrounded by others of similar vibration. For some, this could be one of the lower astral realms which could be considered a form of Hell, a gloomy unpleasant place filled with despair, or a dark place filled with hatred and violence. Like all the astral planes, these are the creations of human thoughts and emotions.

How long do people stay in such places? Until they have had enough and start to look for a way out. This means they have to raise their vibrations and become receptive to higher energies.

Peace

This is correct IMO regarding the lower astrals - I seen some of those ugly faces there several years ago, just drifting, miserable, when I was struggling and vibes were low, and I connected to them in meditation for months before my Angels shifted them - I was meant to see this 'my teaching' - as Jesus says 'whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life'... we should be kind and helpful on our journey, especially the gifted one on here, beyond the call of duty...

What iamthat says reads right, and its going to be dark times for some for a long time, better to be kind and make a difference to someones life, sharing knowledge that people here have - teach others who don't know, to be fair and helpful to others - as simple as that, be kind...

[ocpaul20]

From reading some of the out-of-body books, I get the impression that heaven or hell is a human group mind construct.

What this means is that they're constructed because energy is moulded into form by the mind and when something is thought-of as the same by many people, then it becomes a more permanent structure. So, for example, if many people believed that Heaven was a bunch of clouds floating along with angels playing harps on each cloud, then that 'Heaven' would be created from those thoughts of all those people, so that the folks who believed that, could go there after death of the physical and experience their 'Heaven'.

So there are as many 'Heaven's as you can imagine, all in different areas of the energy universe, separated from the next one by an energy wall so one does not get mixed in the the next and everyone can experience their own Heaven in their own space. If your parents believed the same thing as you do, then you may well find them in the same 'Heaven'.

This is the meaning of "you go (after death) to the level where your energy dictates" because as you believe, so your Heaven is where you go. You go there until you start to question the group construct (example: angels on clouds playing harps) and then your mind has become more open to other things, places, realities being possible. Once that happens, then you are on your journey to bigger and better places and other beings can come in and direct you away from your Heaven/Hell to somewhere better and the progression of your spirit/soul.

Of course, this is only what I have read and none of us really knows how it will be until we get there. Even the people who believe they know and have experienced it cannot necessarily convince us that this is how it will be.

So...with this model of Heaven/Hell all the religions are correct in that there IS a Heaven or a Hell just like they say and until you start to question that created reality, you will experience the Heaven or Hell of your beliefs.

Unfortunately, this model also accounts for the gambler, the porn addict, the gaming addict, the TV addict, and every other habitual practice you may have because as below, so above. Your belief/Heaven/Hell is created for you to live in. You just spend all your time doing what you enjoyed doing until the perfectness of your ex-human situation fades and you start to realise that there is more to life/death than just playing games, watching TV, gambling, etc.

Since time is a feature of this Earth reality, there is no time there so you can be there for many Earth years and it will not matter or seem like a short/long time. It is the same with our dreams, time is not important or does not correlate to waking Earth time.

[Kit Wyse]

Originally Posted by iamthat

My opinion is that after the physical body dies we go to a place which corresponds to our own vibration, surrounded by others of similar vibration. For some, this could be one of the lower astral realms which could be considered a form of Hell, a gloomy unpleasant place filled with despair, or a dark place filled with hatred and violence. Like all the astral planes, these are the creations of human thoughts and emotions.

How long do people stay in such places? Until they have had enough and start to look for a way out. This means they have to raise their vibrations and become receptive to higher energies.

Peace

Yes.

I also wonder whether Heaven and Hell are states which we could achieve on the physical Earth, depending upon how we take ourselves forwards as a whole planet, through action or inaction.

[Oscar Frye]

Originally Posted by iamthat

My opinion is that after the physical body dies we go to a place which corresponds to our own vibration, surrounded by others of similar vibration. For some, this could be one of the lower astral realms which could be considered a form of Hell, a gloomy unpleasant place filled with despair, or a dark place filled with hatred and violence. Like all the astral planes, these are the creations of human thoughts and emotions.

How long do people stay in such places? Until they have had enough and start to look for a way out. This means they have to raise their vibrations and become receptive to higher energies.

Peace

Hi, completely agree with this explanation.

[inavalan]

Originally Posted by Vince

I personally don't believe in it. I'm reading a fun little book titled 'Hell and Damnation: A Sinner's Guide to Eternal Torment' by Marq de Villiers. Picked it up because- even if it's not something I think is real- it's such a fascinating concept. So many systems of belief have their own "hells", and I'd love to hear how different users here would choose to define it.
Does hell look like Betty Boop: 'Red Hot Mama'? does it look like a black experience-less pit of nothing, or does it look like a place of suffering that helps a soul better itself, forgive itself, and eventually ascend?

Maybe, like nightmares ...