Does one environment affect/forms ones beliefs?

[Moonglow]

Hello,

Was watching a video on YouTube by Bruce Lipton.

Just stating this for reference and what inspires some thoughts. So, presenting some thoughts.

There is a premis presented in which what one comes to believe and/or believes is formed by ones environment.

These beliefs are deeply rooted with in the subconscious and one may be only aware of 5% while the other 95% lays with in the subconscious.

These subconscious held beliefs form into habits and patterns. For example "I believe I am unworthy." Not true, but if believed to be true may affect behavior that affirms this held belief. It is to me in a way self sabbataging oneself. For even if I desire to be worthy, if the set belief I am not worthy is not recongnized, brought to the conscious mind, subconsciously it will affect how I view myself, thus confirm the belief.

I find this interesting for over the years been working on bringing old habits to the surface and look at why I may or may not do things that I know and/or desire to do.

Sure it is easy to just call it fear, but what is giving rise to this? It comes to me that it has been placed in my mind long time ago and formed into a pattern/habit.

Perhaps at first was to protect the self from further trauma or hurt, but then in a way formed into a belief. That I may get hurt or unworthy.

So, these thoughts brings it back to what Bruce Lipton and I think there are others speak about when proposing that our environment forms our beliefs.

This can even go back to past lives traumas, which I find possible.

Now, to me, not all of what I or another have experienced is traumatic or give a warped view of the self. Some is quite inspiring and helps one survive. The question is: How much of ones environment affects what one may believe?

It comes off to me as recongnizing habits and patterns and understanding as best one can what formed these. For me it has and continues to better understand myself and come to peace.

If it is to use what benefits and let go of what does not, then how can this be fully done if one is not willing to go deeper.

For me it plays a big part in realizing just who I truly am.

Hope this is clear. Welcome any thoughts and insights.

Feel this plays a part in bringing understanding and self awareness. Looking at what may lie and lays underneath the surface.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Yup, I agree with that assessment. We start out with genetics and then are bathed in a life of experience, and every last bit of that experience shapes and reshapes the brain. In a word, neuroplasticity.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Yup, I agree with that assessment. We start out with genetics and then are bathed in a life of experience, and every last bit of that experience shapes and reshapes the brain. In a word, neuroplasticity.

Hi JustASimpleGuy,

Thank you for the response. The mind for me is amazing and how it can rearrange itself is quite interesting.

I have come across information on possible genetic influences, but when looking at environmental ( family, social, life experiences, ect.), for me find a deeper and direct relationship(s).

It bring to mind that what one think creates what one believes, but seems thoughts are influenced by so much. That I may do things without thinking about, then ask; why did I do that or react that way?

A work in progress for me and learned and continue to learn as I go along.

Thought I would share these thoughts.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hi JustASimpleGuy,

Thank you for the response. The mind for me is amazing and how it can rearrange itself is quite interesting.

I have come across information on possible genetic influences, but when looking at environmental ( family, social, life experiences, ect.), for me find a deeper and direct relationship(s).

It bring to mind that what one think creates what one believes, but seems thoughts are influenced by so much. That I may do things without thinking about, then ask; why did I do that or react that way?

A work in progress for me and learned and continue to learn as I go along.

Thought I would share these thoughts.

I've been intensely interested in consciousness for the last decade and I've also done my share of meditation. It's interesting when one gets to the point where emergent thought patterns that normally work below the level of attentive consciousness can be observed, and how they turn into thought trains that can potentially lead to emotional reactions.

Many of those thoughts are shaped by past experiences' impact on the neural circuitry and aren't a product of free will. They are deterministic. The brain has roughly 86 billion neurons with each one having about seven thousand synaptic connections to other neurons. That's a lot of wiring and neuroplasticity is constantly tinkering with it. What an utterly fantastic machine!

Neurons that fire together wire together and we are what we think, whether we are aware of that thinking or not. That's why it's not only actions that can't. It's not even words. It's thoughts because they precede words and words precede action.

We can either let neuroplasticity do all it's work behind the scenes and without intent or we can intentionally nudge it in a more beneficial direction.

[Shivani Devi]

The "Biology of Belief" has pride of place on my bookshelf..it sits right next to "The Divine Matrix" by Gregg Braden.

There are many things that shape belief - genetics, environment, past experience, and just this deep, intrinsic "this feels totally right" vibe.

Suffice to say that it isn't just confined to one (this) lifetime.

There comes a point where belief turns into "knowing" but to those who don't know...who haven't had that experience, it is still a belief because it cannot be "proven" to be anything other than that...so most beliefs are just beliefs about beliefs...funny, isn't it?

Given certain stimuli, each brain reacts differently according to the level of self actualization either at the time or upon hindsight.

They may have been raised by parents telling them they will never amount to anything...some will get low self-esteem and carry the trauma of unworthiness all their lives...others will look at their parents stuck in dead end jobs they hate, struggling to pay the bills, in trouble with the law, getting drunk every weekend and go "your parents must have said exactly the same thing to YOU because if I am not going to amount to anything, the BEST thing I could do would be to follow the example you set for me"...I was an incorrigible teen and got beaten to a pulp for speaking my mind. Did that ever stop me? Hell no!

I am still painfully shy in social settings though...you wouldn't think it by the way I carry on here...call it "overcompensating". =)

I haven't read "Biology of Belief" but I am familiar with the concept of epigenetics and the mind-body connection. How stress and other negative affective states induce inflammatory gene expression. Then there's also telomeres that degrade more quickly under stress.

So yeah, thoughts are incredibly powerful, both to the negative and positive, and not just to our external interactions but also to our internal interactions at the cellular level.

That's what gave me incentive early on to meditate and to pick it back up when I let it fall by the wayside.

More recently I began looking into the work of David Sinclair, NAD+, mitochondria and mitochondrial-encoded genes. I started a combination of Resveratrol and NMN about a month ago and also cold therapy, though not as extreme as Wim Hof.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

The "Biology of Belief" has pride of place on my bookshelf..it sits right next to "The Divine Matrix" by Gregg Braden.

I know, right? Both of them.
Ha, also Catherine Pert's, "Molecules of Emotion: Why You Feel the Way You Feel" and
"Your Body Is Your Subconscious Mind"--researcher of brain chemistry extraordinaire, RIP.
Youtubes available explaining it all - Dr. Joe Dispenza, Joseph Murphy...
actually googling -"Effects of the subconscious mind youtubes', gets you a great list.

Was wondering, Moonglow, if you had seen "What the #?!Bleep?", movie.

Since I have re-programmed my subconscious mind from old beliefs my
life is quite wonderful!

My 'thing' is belief is the most powerful thing in the Universe.
The thing is we may believe something ,
"I am the most qualified person for this job, I would fit so well in that company!!"
YET, in our silent subconscious mind's programming from childhood,
it believes, "You'll never get such a great job"...and thus, you don't.
Also, "Money doesn't grow on trees - You're always screwing up. You can't do anything right. You're just like your father,
fill in the word. Life is hard..." Oh brother.

I hang out a lot in the Affirmations and Manifesting, Law of Attraction section here.
The power we have to re-program our core beliefs is amazing.
Life changing.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

The "Biology of Belief" has pride of place on my bookshelf..it sits right next to "The Divine Matrix" by Gregg Braden.

There are many things that shape belief - genetics, environment, past experience, and just this deep, intrinsic "this feels totally right" vibe.

Suffice to say that it isn't just confined to one (this) lifetime.

There comes a point where belief turns into "knowing" but to those who don't know...who haven't had that experience, it is still a belief because it cannot be "proven" to be anything other than that...so most beliefs are just beliefs about beliefs...funny, isn't it?

Given certain stimuli, each brain reacts differently according to the level of self actualization either at the time or upon hindsight.

They may have been raised by parents telling them they will never amount to anything...some will get low self-esteem and carry the trauma of unworthiness all their lives...others will look at their parents stuck in dead end jobs they hate, struggling to pay the bills, in trouble with the law, getting drunk every weekend and go "your parents must have said exactly the same thing to YOU because if I am not going to amount to anything, the BEST thing I could do would be to follow the example you set for me"...I was an incorrigible teen and got beaten to a pulp for speaking my mind. Did that ever stop me? Hell no!

I am still painfully shy in social settings though...you wouldn't think it by the way I carry on here...call it "overcompensating". =)

Hi Shiva Devi,

Thank you for your sharing,

Yes, for me there is a difference between knowing and believing. Knowing, for me seems to form through experience.

There were things going on with my parents while I was growing up that I was kind of aware of and knew in some ways, but was either too young to fully understand or just left out of the loop. Being the youngest out of six kids.

As I grew older and more mature (somewhat, lol) came to find out more about my family dynamics and what my parents were going through. This brought further understandings and moments of;Oh, so that was why...was going on.

Don't get me wrong feel both did thier what each was able to do, but some relational issues I had with my father were a bit distant at times.

So, knowing the dynamics has helped me understand some set patterns with in myself and come to terms with them. Also mellowed out, a bit, with the passing years.

Socially I need to warm up to someone before feeling a closeness of some kind with them. Some have called it shy, but I think it is more of being a private person.

A place like this helps to air out the thoughts at times and for the most part feel pretty safe expressing myself.

Yes, find each person seems to process information given a bit different according to what one is capable of doing, IMO.

By the way: the information and links you provide are great and appreciated. Still going through the responses here. Hugs

[MyndFull]

[quote=Shivani Devi]”The "Biology of Belief" has pride of place on my bookshelf..it sits right next to "The Divine Matrix" by Gregg Braden”


SNAP! Shivani devi :-) I bought both books at roughly the same time over a decade ago and they both were/are really inspiring reads.

The divine matrix philosophy of the united consciousness ‘web’ - a few people have an idea and in time all will know that idea, i really resonate with.
It’s what gives me hope for humanity. When we reach a ‘critical mass number’ of ‘unified conscious spirit awareness’ in a few people - that is the crux for all global minds to eventually ‘catch on’.....i feel that process is occurring more tangibly now than decades earlier. Im very optimistic.

The nature/nurture argument is one which fascinates. Certainly once we’re out of parental nurturing influence, life experiences and what WE CHOOSE to expose ourselves to during life will influence us moreso, especially as we become more adult in our thinking/independent from what was ‘taught’ by family environments.

I see life as a recipe for a wonderful meal.
All the ingredients are our life experiences, so will render the meal tasty or disgusting.

WE really do get choice about what ‘diet’ of life experience we are involved in, once we become adult and independent.

A saying has recently been appearing in life - “you become the company you keep”

Everything is energy - energetic patterns affect this energy-sensitive machine body we inhabit. Its important to make choices which resonate with the energetic experiences we WANT, and transform those less than desirable experiences into satisfying experiences.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

I've been intensely interested in consciousness for the last decade and I've also done my share of meditation. It's interesting when one gets to the point where emergent thought patterns that normally work below the level of attentive consciousness can be observed, and how they turn into thought trains that can potentially lead to emotional reactions.

Many of those thoughts are shaped by past experiences' impact on the neural circuitry and aren't a product of free will. They are deterministic. The brain has roughly 86 billion neurons with each one having about seven thousand synaptic connections to other neurons. That's a lot of wiring and neuroplasticity is constantly tinkering with it. What an utterly fantastic machine!

Neurons that fire together wire together and we are what we think, whether we are aware of that thinking or not. That's why it's not only actions that can't. It's not even words. It's thoughts because they precede words and words precede action.

We can either let neuroplasticity do all it's work behind the scenes and without intent or we can intentionally nudge it in a more beneficial direction.

Me, been kind of figure it out as I go along type of guy. Had friends help me along the way. Also have Message Therapy training which brought into my consciousness how every part of our makeup are connected. Not only memories and thoughts held in the mind, emotions held with in the body. How one can affect the other and create dis-ease. Throw on top of that unresolved issues and walla can create disorder, IMO. Mind you this just my lay mans view.

Through message therapy found that areas in the body that may hold emotions/energy are loosened that these held emotions/energy can be released.
This can bring relief not only to the body, but to the mind. Have experienced this myself and witnessed this when I was practicing Massage work.

It is quite amazing.

Meditation is becoming more recognized for it benefits to one being as well. Some schools here in the states have students do a short meditation before class. Brings more calm to the mind and body and focus.

I go back and forth with practicing meditation myself. Still use breathing techniques to help me calm down and bring focus to myself.

Went a little off topic on beliefs here. Just find one can have affect upon the other. Mind/body/spirit.