Is consciousness the real illusion

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

Existence can only be unique. Never become unique. It can never even become anything.

We are aware/conscious that we exist, so existence itself - our existence - becomes an 'object' of consciousness. Back to ego/Ahamkara.

We are already both Absolute and relative.

Is non-Dual/undifferentiated/bite-yer-bum consciousness conscious that it exists when there is no existence outside itself? There comes a time when there is neither Dual nor non-Dual, no relative or Absolute, no perception of time. No I am in any shape or form, not even 'I am That'. No existence, no Being and no being.

Spirituality has it backwards.

Is consciousness an 'object' of consciousness, is awareness an 'object' of awareness? If there is 'something' then they are 'objects'. The whole point of this excercuse is something from nothing. Non-Duality means that "There is not two things, there is only you and you are not a thing." Ejo and what are you when you are not a thing, who is the thing that wrote that post?

Try walking down the street and experiencing going from point A to point B and experiencing every step in between in the same Now. Try experiencing writing the first word of a post and the last word at the same time. How we measure time is a construct of convenience that helps synchronise society, it's based on being able to count to 60 with your fingers and not talking your shoes off. But in your perceptial reality there is a gap between every step when you walk, there is a gap between the first and last word in every sentence.

If time doesn't exist, nether do you because 'you' and time are made of the same 'stuff'.

And you said yourself that non-existence doesn't exist. If something doesn't exist how does it enter your consciousness?

We don't need awakening, what we need first and foremost and especiaslly as 'Spiritual' people is a healthy individuation.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Experience has a unique aspect to it, however there is an aspect that's not unique. What is That?

Experience doesn't have an aspect to it that isn't unique. Experience itself, is an ASPECT of existence. Experience exists. And ALL aspects of existence, are the same one aspect of existence. Uniqueness. Why? Because there is no other aspect to existence, infact the uniqueness of existence IS existence itself.

Proof:
"Non existence doesn't exist, therefor, existence is unique. There is no likeness to existence. No unlikeness. For there to be an unlikeness to existence, then non-existence has to exist! And BY DEFINITION non-existence DOESNT exist! So existence is unique, absolutely."


Again, to say that existence always HAS been unique and always WILL be unique, is again, missing the point. TIME EXISTS. Time is subject to existence. Existence is not subject to time.

Therefor, the uniqueness of existence is absolute. There exists only the uniqueness of existence and all things are it. There isn't even a seperation between all things and it. THERE ISNT EVEN A CONNECTION between all things and it. ALL THINGS ----ARE---- IT. THERE EXISTS NOTHING ELSE EXCEPT THE UNIQUENESS OF EXISTENCE.

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

Experience doesn't have an aspect to it that isn't unique.

Sure it does else You are different from moment to moment. Different now from the second that was and the second that is to come. If that is the case which unique experience are You? In essence it's saying the Absolute is subject to cause and effect which means it's not Absolute.

Here's an even deeper understanding. Say we dismiss the unique aspect of experience and all that is left is Existence itself. Is That unique? From what, non-existence? If Existence always was, is and will always be and without the possibility of non-existence what exactly is It unique from?

Experience is a pointer to That. One way I've heard it phrased is That is the golden thread that runs through all experience.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

what exactly is It unique from?

What do you mean, unique "from"?

Its unique. There exists nothing else but it.

How is it going to be unique "from" anything, if there exists nothing else but it?

I'm so confused right now, haha.

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Sure it does else You are different from moment to moment.

There is only one moment.

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

If that is the case which unique experience are You?.

The one and only unique experience that exists, as eternally infinite absolutely unchanging uniqueness of existence, experiencing eternal infinite absolute unchanging uniqueness of existence. And the being and the experience are one and the same thing.

Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy

Here's an even deeper understanding. Say we dismiss the unique aspect of experience and all that is left is Existence itself. Is That unique?

Yes, this is the ultimate question. The final question. And the answer is infinite. Absolute. Nondual.
There is only existence. Non existence doesnt exist. There is no likeness to existence, no unlikeness. It is eternally absolutely infinitely unchangingly unique. There exists no outside to it, no inside. Everything is existence.

What we experience as change is a real experience, but the definition change is not the correct definition. The correct definition of that experience is "the unchanging experience of the unchanging uniqueness of existence."
It is always here and now. So replace the word change by uniqueness. And everything will make sense.
The uniqueness of existence doesnt need to change in order for everything to appear "changing". You can be in the same here and now moment, and without existence changing, and thus, without you changing, everything will be forever unique. Now it is unique and now it is unique. Why? Because there is only one moment. And it doesnt change... It is simply BEING unique. And you are it. Without becoming anything else. This concept is beyond the definition of time. It is Absolute. Time is also it. It applies to everything. It is existence itself. It is not only omni dimensional, it is beyond dimensions and dualities also.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

There is only one moment.

Thank you for that.