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Old 06-03-2021, 04:19 AM
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Hi running,

I haven’t been ignoring your post – it is only that I haven’t had access to my computer for a few days.

Like you, I guess, I too am a “one trick pony”.
And where it accords to Amerind spirituality is the ‘myth’ of the Axis Mundi ImthatIm posted a link of previously:
http://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/tc.../axismundi.htm

That “Sacred Space Centre” is “Core Shamanism.” Like your “Silence and Stillness” (I suppose).

The rest is just how one ‘dances’ in that space. Oooor how “Silence and Stillness” dances as manifested Universe (our reality).
You being a truck driver is an aspect of your ‘dance’, but only in the context of it relating to “Silence and Stillness’ ….. no?
As everything radiates from and relates to that central core … no?
How one ‘dances’ is important, but only in relation to that core … no?

P.S Even though one expects the unexpected - I think our spiritual guidance still comes as a surprise

thank you for sharing sentient. you make some very good solid points.
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Old 06-03-2021, 04:29 AM
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All this being connected to nature etc. is cool, but social anxiety isn’t, because you internalize it as there being something so very wrong with you.

If I was the bloke in this before mentioned video from 3:26 – 4:05 …. that is how I would look like when I would start feeling paranoid, just before a panic attack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPiKAhhEHXA

Used to get a lot of those among the “whites” when I was young, no fear about those among the aboriginals though, because I had/have always felt connected and supported, plus you always see through what is going on.

Meditation helped a lot, because it enabled me to stay calm when things started to get uncomfortable and not only to be mindful of my own sensations and reactions, but also to have a proper slow look how "whites" think and react to things differently and why.

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the white culture has a lot of mental illness. everything has pros and cons. but certainly the negative of the white culture is the mind is all over the place. for me once i began to understand that i began to build a life that works for me rather than against. i don't watch t.v. unless its educational and even then much i stay away from. once in a while maybe some thing not educational but not often. i dont watch movies except once in a while. i take great pride in not being concerned about being like others and how they would like me to be. one of the reasons i got into trucking is to stay away from the minds of the people. its a circus. also one of the reasons i spend time with nature.
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Old 06-03-2021, 08:51 PM
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the white culture has a lot of mental illness. everything has pros and cons. but certainly the negative of the white culture is the mind is all over the place. for me once i began to understand that i began to build a life that works for me rather than against. i don't watch t.v. unless its educational and even then much i stay away from. once in a while maybe some thing not educational but not often. i dont watch movies except once in a while. i take great pride in not being concerned about being like others and how they would like me to be. one of the reasons i got into trucking is to stay away from the minds of the people. its a circus. also one of the reasons i spend time with nature.
Yes. Certainly compulsive ego-competitiveness and mirroring one’s self-worth through the eyes of others doesn’t allow any inner dimension connection to “spirit” or “silence&stillness”, - whatever, to develop. But this is what we are supposed to buy into in our modern world.

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Yes. Certainly compulsive ego-competitiveness and mirroring one’s self-worth through the eyes of others doesn’t allow any inner dimension connection to “spirit” or “silence&stillness”, - whatever, to develop. But this is what we are supposed to buy into in our modern world.

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everything has pros and cons. the trick is as i see it is embrace what works and make it work for you. im not telling you or anyone to do that. im simply explaining what i try to do.
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Old 07-03-2021, 03:56 AM
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It's alright to win and have a victory dance for the win.
Victory Song Sept 25 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULKOYNUmpw

Actually it is just good to dance when the Spirit moves you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvzFFVa6owE
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It's alright to win and have a victory dance for the win.
Victory Song Sept 25 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULKOYNUmpw

Actually it is just good to dance when the Spirit moves you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvzFFVa6owE

the second video the sounds im hearing is similar to sounds i use to open up my throat and drive a strong vibration into my body. i would use hypnotic music like alice in chains as a background to drive into a strong vibration. in the throat is like vehicle and using sounds and sensing where it takes you was perhaps the most exciting thing i have ever done. i use to do that every day as part of my practice. im not suggesting the sounds i used were the sounds in the video. im saying listening to that sounds like to me how you tune into through the throat chakra. i dont do it anymore because im now a truck driver. driving 80,000 lbs i feel i have to remain very grounded for safety. i did do it for a moment a little while back going down the road and i had to stop because it was lifting me into the strong vibrations and that trance feeling was coming in so i stopped it. turned the music off and worked on bringing myself back. haven't thought about doing it off the road. maybe i should. perhaps before i run.
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Thanks, ImthatIm. Enjoyed both of the videos.

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running,
Alice in Chains uh?
Had never heard of them, but listening to them now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWK0kqjPSVI

… reminds me of Godsmack sound you once posted, which I still love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A4Km5PTu5o

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For a few years there, I listened to a lot of Amerind music for its theta-brainwave, trance inducing properties and used/utilized those for “Shamanic Journeying”.
Plus, at the time I was in contact, in communication with a (‘spirit introduced karmic connection’) Amerind person.

And because “I” did not initiate that connection, it turned out to be a wholesome learning/sharing experience I could also have a deeper letting go (trance) trust in.

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If my spiritual journey was leading me to Kundalini activation, and ‘spirit signs’ would indicate a person coming into my life to help me with that and there would be a mutual nondual recognition – then trustingly I would go with that – otherwise I do not volunteer even if nondual (Touch Wood).

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Thanks, ImthatIm. Enjoyed both of the videos.

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running,
Alice in Chains uh?
Had never heard of them, but listening to them now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWK0kqjPSVI

… reminds me of Godsmack sound you once posted, which I still love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A4Km5PTu5o

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For a few years there, I listened to a lot of Amerind music for its theta-brainwave, trance inducing properties and used/utilized those for “Shamanic Journeying”.
Plus, at the time I was in contact, in communication with a (‘spirit introduced karmic connection’) Amerind person.

And because “I” did not initiate that connection, it turned out to be a wholesome learning/sharing experience I could also have a deeper letting go (trance) trust in.

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If my spiritual journey was leading me to Kundalini activation, and ‘spirit signs’ would indicate a person coming into my life to help me with that and there would be a mutual nondual recognition – then trustingly I would go with that – otherwise I do not volunteer even if nondual (Touch Wood).

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i don't know why music and trance isn't more popular. i don't know of any quicker way of spiritual progress but im only speaking to my experience.

i always enjoyed music that is hypnotic because it hits the soul for me. you found the live version of alice in chains acoustical which is the best representation of their music imo.

david spero offers weekly transmissions and talks via the internet for those experiencing or wishing to experience kundalini. gurus or whatever they call themselves are flawed people like us. some people become gurus to feel like a king over others. its not always from the teacher but from the students. i stopped participating in the weekly internet because it was getting to be to weird for me. im not suggesting he was trying to be like a king. more like his students were weirded out to me pressuring me to kiss his but. which i can't do. i got what i needed and left. im just sharing how i played it. in case kundalini becomes in your experience and you find some help from someone. i mention him because he seemed the best i know of. overall my experience was good with him.
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:39 AM
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i don't know why music and trance isn't more popular. i don't know of any quicker way of spiritual progress but im only speaking to my experience.
Trance certainly is a tool and used skilfully – an important one for spiritual unfoldment.
Used unskilfully – well – not good.


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always enjoyed music that is hypnotic because it hits the soul for me. you found the live version of alice in chains acoustical which is the best representation of their music imo.
A fan of Alice in Chains style now.


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david spero offers weekly transmissions and talks via the internet for those experiencing or wishing to experience kundalini. gurus or whatever they call themselves are flawed people like us. some people become gurus to feel like a king over others. its not always from the teacher but from the students. i stopped participating in the weekly internet because it was getting to be to weird for me. im not suggesting he was trying to be like a king. more like his students were weirded out to me pressuring me to kiss his but. which i can't do. i got what i needed and left. im just sharing how i played it. in case kundalini becomes in your experience and you find some help from someone. i mention him because he seemed the best i know of. overall my experience was good with him.
I have got a natural aversion towards David Spero - for no reason.

Maybe he is the greatest. Maybe because I am not ready. Maybe this – maybe that, I don’t even want to know the answer to 'why'.

And yes, ‘gurus’ are flawed too, everybody is, so I don’t put them on pedestal – they are not my “Deity”.

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Trance certainly is a tool and used skilfully – an important one for spiritual unfoldment.
Used unskilfully – well – not good.



A fan of Alice in Chains style now.



I have got a natural aversion towards David Spero - for no reason.

Maybe he is the greatest. Maybe because I am not ready. Maybe this – maybe that, I don’t even want to know the answer to 'why'.

And yes, ‘gurus’ are flawed too, everybody is, so I don’t put them on pedestal – they are not my “Deity”.

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your not alone on your natural aversion towards him. also i was polite when i brought him up and spoke to the benefit. put a disclaimer in there as what to watch out for.

"im not a people worshiper." that was my inner mantra as everyone tried to get me to bow to their person. thought i was going to lose my mind. the good part was is the anger it was causing me opened me up to reading the script of things. in those times of people trying to push me around. which is funny to this day thinking about it. lol. i guess its a different kinda fighting. lol. i don't know. just know it happened.
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